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Old 11-16-2006, 12:39 PM
getfunky getfunky is offline
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Default 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

Seat 6 is a tight and aggressive player, otherwise I would have lead out on 4th .. would you have called here on 5th?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($5/$10), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $2 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.10 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (2.55 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (2.55 BB)
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Old 11-16-2006, 01:11 PM
Brad1970 Brad1970 is offline
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

I'd probably fold too but I wouldn't mind peeling one off on 5th either & folding unimproved. If he is TAG, then he's got something worthy of calling obvious split aces. Maybe 2 small connecting spades in the hole for a 2 way draw (although a spade draw would be kinda marginal at this point) & he got there on you by fifth.
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:00 PM
Lt Barclay Lt Barclay is offline
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

i like the fold. given the action and your read, it looks like he started with a fairly coordinated low hand. but in any case you're a dog to almost any two low hole cards. you're OOP and could be facing 3 BB to win about 1.25 with a good chance at getting scooped.

check out last month's magazine article on how to win with big pairs in stud8.
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

I don't think it is obviosu split aces, especially given his check on 4th. It looks more like a 3 card low that bricked on 4th.
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

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I don't think it is obviosu split aces, especially given his check on 4th. It looks more like a 3 card low that bricked on 4th.

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It would have looked like split A's if I were playing because I would have been in there raising. Might have bit me in the ass, but I would have raised anyway to see where I was.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

Would you call fourth here with a busted low?

If you're going to define your hand anyway, I prefer doing it aggressively.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

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Would you call fourth here with a busted low?

If you're going to define your hand anyway, I prefer doing it aggressively.

[/ QUOTE ] I always bet out against players who will play less than premium hands, as what do I learn by checking and calling - he has to bet almost anything. This guy would probably raise me here if he paired, so I would be building a bigger pot, revealing my hand, and still not knowing where he was at - I was planning to raise 5th if he bricked. I kept the pot small, my cards were dying quickly and villian shows a coordinated board. The reason I posted this hand was that I wasn't fond of not defining my hand and just folding - but that's how the cards fell on 5th. I think it's OK now, but I was tempted to chase with a back door low at the time but fortunately my discipline prevailed.
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

Fifth is fine, I'd probably bet fourth however and see how my opponent reacts
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Old 11-17-2006, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

I like check-calling 4th. When your opponent catches the 4, he will generally have a powerful draw against two aces if he isn't actually the favorite in the hand. It also disguises your hand somewhat.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: 8/b: Folding Aces on 5th vs Tough board after showing no strength

Looks fine to me.
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