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Old 07-27-2007, 05:41 AM
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Default 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

I've seen this guy stack off 100bb's with TPNK (A4 on AQ9 board).


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $253.30
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $242.30
CO: $277.45
BTN: $200.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 42.6/21.3/2.6 with a wstd of 23 and a w$sd of 35</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, SB calls $1.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, UTG calls $10.00, CO calls $10.00, SB folds

Flop: ($38) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $26.00</font>, UTG calls $26.00, CO folds

Turn: ($90) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $64.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $204.30</font>, Hero ??????
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

Sick spot. Only thing I can think of that he *might* play this way that you beat is QJ (you said he's a drooler...so I'm assuming he isn't thinking about being counterfeited).

Looks like a fold...but I'm not too too happy about it.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

This might be a fold considering your hand is face up to an observant player, but getting over 3 to 1 against a player who stacks off easily, I don't think I'm mucking it.

It would be helpful if you included how he stacked off with A4. Did he c/c down or did he play it aggressively? If he played it aggressively, that definitely pushes it to a call, IMHO.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

loosbastard,
I'm guessing he would play QcXc in this way as well.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

Stacking off with Ax is very different than stacking off with Qx or Jx even in a drooler mind.
I think I fold here unless I have a very strong read that villain is a maniac that would stack off with a pair in this spot. I think you see a 9 too much here to make the call. Tough spot.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

Here's the A4 hand. Guess It wasn't quite a full 100bb, but 80bb is close enough:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $198.00
Hero (BB): $216.30
MORAN!!!11!! (UTG): $203.00
MP: $162.60
CO: $286.50
BTN: $261.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
MORAN!!!11!! calls $2.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $9.00</font>, CO calls $9.00, BTN folds, SB calls $8.00, Hero folds, MORAN!!!11!! calls $7.00

Flop: ($38) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15.00</font>, MORAN!!!11!! calls $15.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $60.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MORAN!!!11!! raises all-in to $194.00</font>, MP calls all-in for $93.60
Uncalled bet of $40.40 returned to MORAN!!!11!!

Turn: ($360.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($360.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $360.20 ($3 Rake)

MP had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Queens) and WON (+$194.60)
MORAN!!!11!! had 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Queens) and LOST (-$162.60)
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

Wow...now I'm really tempted to call. Still think it's really close though. Flip a coin?
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

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Wow...now I'm really tempted to call. Still think it's really close though. Flip a coin?

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Huh? I think that makes it a fairly standard call considering how light he stacked off there.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

The only hand we beat he could play that way is JQ.
But I would expect him to raise the flop with a Jx type of hand and I don't really see him calling the flop bet with many Qx type hands except QT.
Also the fact that he waited the turn to go crazy usually means one of two things:
- he slowplayed what he considers being a monster (a 9 or a FH in this spot)
- he got hit hard by the turn card.
I still fold this, but I one of my leak is definitely folding too much.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: AA in a spot vs. drooler

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one of my leak is definitely calling too much.

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...and I still fold this.
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