Not as "standard" a hand as it might seem at first blush....

[Thinkards]

The game is 5/10 NL at foxwoods. The two opponents who saw the flop with me each have between $2,000 and $3,000, and I have both of them covered.

From early position, I open for $60 with AcKc. Mid-position guy calls (he is a reasonably intelligent lag, and BB calls (he just likes to see lots of flops).

Flop is Ad 6s 9s.

BB checks, I lead for $200, mid-position raises to $600, and BB folds. So it's back to me.

What are we doing, and why?


TK

[gs3737]

All-in. Get rid of flush draws, get called by A,Q. He is not that deep anyway.

[Go_Blue88]

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All-in. Get rid of flush draws, get called by A,Q. He is not that deep anyway.

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what? not sure your reasoning makes a lot of sense. you want to push so that you only get called by AQ (and AK)?

[Idiotex]

My standard line if I only had 100BB's would be to call his flop raise, then check raise the turn all in if it blanks (i.e. neither the straight or flush draws complete)... This deep it's a little bit more difficult.

His most likely range is basically a straight draw, flush draw, combo draw, AQ, AK, A9, A6, 99, 66 and air. Combo draws include a flush draw with a gutshot as well as the open ended staight and flush draw, plus AsXs hands...

I don't know enough about this player to know whether A6s and A9s make up much of his range.

So essentially I think I would call the flop, check raise the turn and call if he shoves.

[Hattifnatt]

whats villians stack, its a pretty big diff if he has 2k or 3k.

[Thinkards]

To start this hand, villain had about $2,600.

When I said villain is a reasonably intelligent lag, I meant to imply that almost any ace (especially if it's suited), and any pair is well within the range with which he will call preflop raises. So, in my mind, the chances of his having two pair, combo draw, or set are rather good.

Also, he is the type who would fire again if we call the raise and then check the turn.

Does this help?


TK

[gs3737]

what? not sure your reasoning makes a lot of sense. you want to push so that you only get called by AQ (and AK)?

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You think he is going to continue with a,rag if you flat call 600, when he only has 1400 behind?

I think the best value is in pushing here.

[Jackal69]

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All-in. Get rid of flush draws, get called by A,Q. He is not that deep anyway.

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mods pls set an example and start banning people wholesale...

[Jonny]

I don't like being OOP against a smart LAG. It's not a situation you want to be in. That said, given your actions so far here is what I'd do:

-Fold

Here is why: If you push, you are risking 200 BB's to win a fairly small pot. You only get called if you are crushed.

If you call, then you are in a bad situation again on the turn. He can't go wrong really since he is in position and your hand is clearly defined.

If you check the turn after this, again he has you by the throat. Give it up and wait for a better spot IMO.

[HelloandGoodby90]

If you call, he knows you have at the very least an ace with a good kicker. With him knowing this, it likely that he is going to just check/fold the rest of the hand. You will get no more money out of him.

If you push, the only hands you really have to worry about are AA, 66, 99 and combo draws. But, I think by pushing you can probably get him to call with a alot of worse hands than those four, so pushing is probably the best value.

By flat calling, you are less likely to have him get stupid with hands at a disadvantage to yours.