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Old 06-21-2007, 01:26 PM
2Fast 2Fast is offline
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Default PS $3.25 45-man MTT - AJs in HJ

standard raise + C-bet + push when 4-flush hits ok right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (t2860)
BB (t1390)
UTG (t2450)
UTG+1 (t1420)
MP1 (t2310)
Hero (t1430)
CO (t710)
Button (t930)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, A.
UTG calls t50, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t200</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, SB calls t175, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG calls t150.

Flop: (t650) T, 7, 2 [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t350</font>, SB folds, UTG calls t350.

Turn: (t1350) 3 [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
UTG checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t880 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls t880.

River: (t3110) 4 [color=#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3110
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Old 06-21-2007, 01:35 PM
KneeCo KneeCo is offline
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Default Re: PS $3.25 45-man MTT - AJs in HJ

Mistake #1:
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)


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Mistake #2?
Why the 4x pf raise?

Mistake #3?
Are cbets standard 3 way in 3$ MTTs? you need both people to fold like 50% of the time here (and thats assuming a J or A on the turn ships you the pot a good % of the time, which in fairness is not out of the question).

As for the turn shove - meh, at that point you have like 3/5th the pot behind. Whether you take the free river or shove (only two options obv) is entirely read based, how UTG has been playing, timing tells on his flop call/turn check, that kinda stuff.
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Old 06-21-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: PS $3.25 45-man MTT - AJs in HJ

sorry hard to read with converter but UTG limped (he'd done it before and folded I wasn't worried about a monster) so I raised 4x with a limper. I c-bet a lot here in position when checked to me after raising flop.
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Old 06-21-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: PS $3.25 45-man MTT - AJs in HJ

KneeCo missed the limper, the 4x raise is fine (although just calling with AJs here is fine too, and probably my default play.) I hate the turn bet, I just don't think he's folding very often getting 2.5:1...if he liked his hand on the flop I'm not thinking the 3 on the turn is going to scare him. So, it seems you are behind, and have very little FE, but likely have 15 outs to the best hand on the river. Check and take the free card.
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Old 06-21-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: PS $3.25 45-man MTT - AJs in HJ

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KneeCo missed the limper

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indeed, oops.
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Old 06-21-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: PS $3.25 45-man MTT - AJs in HJ

meh, people at $3 don't fold so I hate the cbet and don't really like the turn push b/c you have very little FE. limping preflop is my standard play since well, people don't fold and the jack doesn't always give us TPTK.
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