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Old 11-07-2007, 08:09 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default 10/20 top pair vs limper


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6 players, seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: UTG ($1,940.00)
Seat 3: UTG+1 ($4,479.95)
Seat 5: CO ($2,418.00)
Seat 6: <font color="#C80000">Hero</font> ($2,057.00)
Seat 8: SB ($3,152.50)
Seat 10: BB ($2,037.50)



SB posts small blind, $10.00
BB posts big blind, $20.00

Dealing to <font color="#C80000">Hero</font>:
Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG folds
UTG+1 folds
CO calls
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> raises to $90
SB folds
BB folds
CO calls

Dealing flop: (Pot is $210.00)
3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

CO checks
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> bets $175
CO raises to $455


Villain here is 25/10/2.23 over 1.5k hands. no real history between us. this seems like a standard fold I guess, but I find it really hard to see what he limps in the CO that isnt a draw now? will 25/10 really limp PP in the CO? Just let it go or take a card and get it in on good turn?
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

any thoughts on this one?
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

Yeah that converter sucks, took me 5 minutes to work out what was going on. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I don't have a problem with going broke here but it would depend on reads of course. Nice to know his attempt to steal, raised c-bet and other relevant stats.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

hm, i think if he's capeable of openlimping in CO, he might do it w/ PPs for sure.
but since this is just a guess, i'd call anyway and probably go broke on a blank turn
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

I call

Turn Ace of Clubs

He bets $750. Put the rest in?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

the odd limp in LP from non retarded player will often be a real hand. So he can have big pair, flopped set, less likely the oddly played A9. Best case scenario, he has monster draw. I like a fold.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

Well here's what I stoved and I guess from this it should be 3b AI? Ranges should be tweaked some more

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.590% 60.55% 00.04% 74329 51.00 { Qs9c }
Hand 1: 39.410% 39.37% 00.04% 48329 51.00 { 99, 77, 33, A8s, A6s-A2s, KJs+, QTs+, JTs, T8s, 97s, 86s, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, A9o, JTo, T8o, 97o, 86o }
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

that range is really really generous to me though
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:14 PM
mikeysong mikeysong is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

how about now?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.439% 52.36% 00.08% 32136 51.00 { Qs9c }
Hand 1: 47.561% 47.48% 00.08% 29142 51.00 { 99, 77, 33, A8s, A6s-A2s, JTs, T8s, 97s, 86s, 65s, 54s, A9o, 97o }
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 top pair vs limper

does J10s in that mean J10 of spades exactly or all combos of J10s?. same for 65 etc?
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