First hand semibluff

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I would fold preflop.



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150 BBs deep, OTB, first hand?

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You have J9o.

[g-p]

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I would fold preflop.



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150 BBs deep, OTB, first hand?

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You have J9o.

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LOL

preflop is +EV always if you can play after the flop.

i like calling the c/r but people who think 3 betting is terrible are wrong

[djk123]

betgo if you are decent postflop i'm pretty sure you can open almost any 2 here profitably

[j4lvlie]

i fold

[Hattifnatt]

is it really that bad of a play?

if I put me in my opponents shoes I cannot see how he can continue comfortable without a very good hand and I price myself in to call an eventual push and can double or bust directly.

[Soulman]

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is it really that bad of a play?

if I put me in my opponents shoes I cannot see how he can continue comfortable without a very good hand and I price myself in to call an eventual push and can double or bust directly.

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You're getting like 2:1 on calling the shove, so it's actually not that bad...

Also agree with 3-betting not nec being bad btw.

[auc hincloss]

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I hate it.

If he's shoving you have 8 outs and a re-draw to deal w/

I'd call his c/r and go from there

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I'm with AS here, calling a 5-bet is pure spew.

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just fold pre.

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I would fold preflop.

To the flop raise, I don't mind a smaller reraise and fold to a 4-bet. Flat calling is also fine. I wouldn't fold to the raise.

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but as i said earlier i would just fold pre.

[betgo]

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is it really that bad of a play?

if I put me in my opponents shoes I cannot see how he can continue comfortable without a very good hand and I price myself in to call an eventual push and can double or bust directly.

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As I said, 3-bet less and fold to a 4-bet. You don't have odds to call with the straight draw. If villain 4-bets, he usually has a big hand like 2-pair or a set. It is OK to sometimes fold a draw on the flop. This is not a strong draw, and you should not be looking to go allin with it.

[Hattifnatt]

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is it really that bad of a play?

if I put me in my opponents shoes I cannot see how he can continue comfortable without a very good hand and I price myself in to call an eventual push and can double or bust directly.

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As I said, 3-bet less and fold to a 4-bet. You don't have odds to call with the straight draw. If villain 4-bets, he usually has a big hand like 2-pair or a set. It is OK to sometimes fold a draw on the flop. This is not a strong draw, and you should not be looking to go allin with it.

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the main idea was obv not to go all-in, it was to increase my stack with 10% (which I think I do this way the absolute majority of the time), however, I make the raise that big so if he pushes I can comfortable call with close to neutral cEV.

I know its a high variance play and I very seldom go for a quick bust or double but I know many successful players do and it was just some kind of "backup" plan as stated if I dont just pick up the pot.

[jtomon]

I usually make this play....when I'm drinking.