[censored] it i'm posting some hands: A9s in SB/preflop is hetero

[tyler_cracker]

table is passive and medium-loose (a couple tight spots on my left).

co is old, passive, and on the tight side. he open limps.

button is looseish but can be aggressive. i've seen him pfr here with AJs, e.g. he limps as well.

bb is passive (he lol checked behind with 99 on a K9755 board) but occasionally spazzy. he is never folding.

hero is sb with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. hero...?

[Point Blank]

that's probably right around a boarderline ... so either/or

[sharpie]

Raise it up. I think you have a decent edge 4 way, even old guys often raise with hands dominating yours when it's folded to them in the CO, right?

[shadow.]

yeah, old guys do raise some dominated hands, not all though.

maybe not ats.

anyway, the good thing about raising here is that you're over-representing your hand to a bunch of old dudes. they would never, ever think about raising here and thus you gain a ton of FE. in addition to the equity you get by having a fairly strong hand that is suited.

plus, raising is also fun because old dudes don't like it. so do it more often.

holla

[Bulletproof Monk]

i call

[bennyhana]

complete

hmmm, that shadow guy says FE. In my limited live playing experience, I didn't think that existed at the limits we play tyler. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] If you think you can build some of that then I'm for raising. If not then I'd keep the pot small and make em make mistakes after the flop.

[Buzz-cp]

complete, flop a pair, and value-bet.

Buzz

[bravos1]

I think it is pretty close. There are prolly on 2 hands AT and AJ that dominate us here, BUT our position sucks and many flops are going to give us a headache. I'll typically just complete here due primarily to position and flop quad nines!