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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
unfortunately this is a fold. im a station so id prob. call in game knowing hes on ATC
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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It's a clear call if you've never worked with ICM tools lol. [/ QUOTE ] That was a response to Shillx? LOL. |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so!
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so! [/ QUOTE ] Agreed! |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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[ QUOTE ] Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so! [/ QUOTE ] Agreed! [/ QUOTE ] This is one of those hands where the future matters - ICM doesn't incorporate that. It's not clear either way, but it's definitely not a clear fold. To answer this definitively you'd need to do a simulation - run the bubble a few thousand times with the big stack pushing every hand and doing his best to keep shortie alive with everyone else acting as ICM suggests. |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so! [/ QUOTE ] Agreed! [/ QUOTE ] This is one of those hands where the future matters - ICM doesn't incorporate that. It's not clear either way, but it's definitely not a clear fold. To answer this definitively you'd need to do a simulation - run the bubble a few thousand times with the big stack pushing every hand and doing his best to keep shortie alive with everyone else acting as ICM suggests. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. I think if you do this simulation calling would be better. |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
TFG implies in the original post that he understands that ICM would say this is slightly -EV...clearly if thats all he wanted to know, he wouldn't bother posting this.
that said, the stacks are pretty perfect for making this call, given bubble implications. |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so! [/ QUOTE ] Agreed! [/ QUOTE ] This is one of those hands where the future matters - ICM doesn't incorporate that. It's not clear either way, but it's definitely not a clear fold. To answer this definitively you'd need to do a simulation - run the bubble a few thousand times with the big stack pushing every hand and doing his best to keep shortie alive with everyone else acting as ICM suggests. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. I think if you do this simulation calling would be better. [/ QUOTE ] That's my instinct - it's definitely a better call than ICM would suggest, and there are three factors which contribute to that so the difference is probably quite substantial. |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so! [/ QUOTE ] lol patdown ill give you 2:1 on your bankroll that shillx would score higher than you an a bubble quiz. Let me know! |
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Re: 27T: Go beyond ICM to make this bubble call?
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[ QUOTE ] Lol whatever. Folding must be correct b/c SNGPT says so! [/ QUOTE ] lol patdown ill give you 2:1 on your bankroll that shillx would score higher than you an a bubble quiz. Let me know! [/ QUOTE ] I'll take some of that action. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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