AJ 3b pot, bluffing

fees · #1 11-01-2007, 06:51 AM

No reads, except he def isn't a regular/tag. The reason I'm taking this line is because he called preflop very quickly, which IMO is very rarely JJ+. He also called flop on quick side.

Do you like?

UTG: $913.05
CO: $420
Fees (BTN): $414
SB: $499.30
BB: $394

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J

dealt to Fees (BTN)
UTG raises to $14, CO folds, Fees raises to $48, 2 folds, UTG calls $34

Flop: ($102) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9

2

(2 Players)
UTG checks, Fees bets $77, UTG calls $77

Turn: ($256) 9

(2 Players)
UTG checks, Fees bets $289 and is All-In

jj12 · #2 11-01-2007, 06:53 AM

400 NL games are fishy and a lot of players will call with any pair here because the push seems like BS on the 9 pairing.

Bikini Wax · #3 11-01-2007, 07:20 AM

probably the worst card to bluff on...

fees · #4 11-01-2007, 07:38 AM

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Does that necessarily make it a bad bluff?

I think its pretty clear neither of us has a 9, or well he doesn't at least, so I don't see how thats any different from like a 6 or 7

ama0330 · #5 11-01-2007, 07:43 AM

What do you put him on and what are you trying to fold? I cant see him calling the flop then folding the turn because the turn doesnt change anything

CopTHIS · #6 11-01-2007, 07:58 AM

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What do you put him on and what are you trying to fold? I cant see him calling the flop then folding the turn because the turn doesnt change anything

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Lots of hands peel one off on the flop and then fold a push on the turn. Obv it's pointless if they think there will always be a second barrel but they can't know that. They may put you on AK then change their mind when you push (I know I do sometimes anyway). Probably, given the read, this isn't going to get enough folds though.

emil3000 · #7 11-01-2007, 08:20 AM

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I think its pretty clear neither of us has a 9, or well he doesn't at least, so I don't see how thats any different from like a 6 or 7

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Why can't he have a 9?

fees · #8 11-01-2007, 08:41 AM

I doubt he calls OOP with 109s or 98s, and instantly calls preflop. I think more likely he has like 77/88/1010/mayyybeJJ and def AK (like i said hes a donk). Remember hes donkish so hes not necessarily calling flop with a turn plan. I'm also ssure there are goofy random things in his range I'm not thinking of