VB with Quads?

[Life Tilt]

Sorry for rough HH, converter wasn't working. Anyways, I rarely play tourneys, but have been killing 5/10c PLO and decided to play the $1 rebuy. Table is generally loose and, as expected in a $1 mtt, predicatable (sort of) and bad.


Hand #46886028-17 at Sat515amA-004 (Pot Limit tournament Omaha)
Started at 06/Oct/07 05:47:30

friendofKGB is at seat 0 with 3880.
LJsAdventure is at seat 1 with 4350.
Flushmeroyaly is at seat 2 with 4790.
tattersally is at seat 3 with 1145.
Life Tilt is at seat 4 with 3735.
POKERPAYER is at seat 5 with 1435.
Bob6536 is at seat 6 with 2845.
TA_HeadButt is at seat 7 with 1475.
Hoagi1 is at seat 8 with 2915.
napolean solo is at seat 9 with 1930.
The button is at seat 5.

Bob6536 posts the small blind of 15.
TA_HeadButt posts the big blind of 25.

friendofKGB: -- -- -- --
LJsAdventure: -- -- -- --
Flushmeroyaly: -- -- -- --
tattersally: -- -- -- --
Life Tilt: Qs 7h Qd 5d
POKERPAYER: -- -- -- --
Bob6536: -- -- -- --
TA_HeadButt: -- -- -- --
Hoagi1: -- -- -- --
napolean solo: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

Hoagi1 folds. napolean solo calls. friendofKGB
calls. LJsAdventure calls. Flushmeroyaly calls.
tattersally folds. Life Tilt calls. POKERPAYER
folds. Bob6536 calls. TA_HeadButt checks.

Flop (board: Th Jc Qc):

Bob6536 checks. TA_HeadButt checks. napolean solo
checks. friendofKGB checks. LJsAdventure bets 25.
Flushmeroyaly folds. Life Tilt calls. Bob6536
calls. TA_HeadButt folds. napolean solo calls.
friendofKGB folds.

Turn (board: Th Jc Qc Qh):

Bob6536 checks. napolean solo checks. LJsAdventure
checks. Life Tilt checks.

River (board: Th Jc Qc Qh 4c):

Bob6536 checks. napolean solo bets 275.
LJsAdventure calls. Life Tilt....

[automat]

what´s your question btw?

folding and calling are NOT your best options, right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

raise pot obv. that flush will pay you off like 100 % of the time.

[Life Tilt]

I thought "VB with Quads" would give away "How much should I bet to get called?" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Next time I'll phrase better. Yes, I was wondering what to bet here, I want to bet enough to get called, but not so much to where I don't get action. Isn't pot too much, even for these retards?

[Aisthesis]

I think I'd try somewhere around 700 here. Keeping Bob in seems less relevant that either getting a raise (which I don't exclude in this kind of thing) out of napoleon or a call out of both.

[automat]

re: retards

he´s either willing to call or he´ll fold anyway. if he´s willing to call, he´ll call anything at this level, so it really doesn´t matter how much you raise imo.

[Aisthesis]

Potting would put it at what, like 1400? I guess with rebuys they still could call. I'd go either as low as humanly possible (the 700) or else full pot. But full pot does seem risky at folding them both--at least to my mind. But I don't know just how donkish your opponents are. And with the 700, they still have the opportunity to raise you...

[FireStorm]

Bet the turn. Checking this board with 3 other players involved is burning money, give them a chance to call with all types of dead draws. As far as the river, 900 seems good.