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Old 04-29-2007, 11:41 PM
Tom Ames Tom Ames is offline
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Default Re: Good way to maximize emotional EV

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As long as she has ANY clue about BJ, and doesn't play those retarded 6-5 games, about the bigggest edge against her will only be 1%, but most likely, .5%, so basically, she's tossing away a sawbuck or two each time.

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What're the odds in BJ if you're doing an all-or-nothing single bet? So you aren't going to be able to split or double down? I imagine you're giving up two or three percent.

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What is the probability of winning any given hand in blackjack?

Under Atlantic City rules the probability of a net win is 43.31%, a tie is 8.80%, and a loss is 47.89%.

as per the wizard. There is no data available that I could find if you cannot split or double down, but I did ask the Wizard so we might learn soon enough.

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If you don't intend to split and/or double, it elevates this tactic from terrible to horrific.
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Old 04-30-2007, 03:46 AM
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Sometimes when I'm leaving a casino, if I'm stuck for the day after a long session, I take what I'm stuck and put it on one hand of blackjack.

I figure it's a pretty close to neutral EV bet, and when I'm stuck 2k I sort of feel the same crappy feeling as when I'm stuck 4k. But if I'm even instead of stuck 2k, I'm much much much happier. So I sacrifice a tiny bit of actual EV and gain a ton of emotional EV.

I happen to be 0/4 on these bets and down almost 10k but I'm pretty sure it's a winning strategy.

Discuss.

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It seems to me that you're saying that
1) you're not sure if your poker playing is +$EV and
2) you're a gambler willing to take a big risk on a straight-up coin-flip or worse.

Isn't the point of getting good at poker to put yourself in +EV situations. Instead of depending on chance, you expect to do better than chance.

Your title dealt with trying to maximize emotional EV. You lower your long term emotional EV every time you reinforce the idea and emotional memory that you're not yet ready to play long term winning poker, plus you're ready to take even or less than even coin-flips.

It's giving up on the idea of putting yourself in +$EV situations and reinforcing that brain pattern of giving up and doing the opposite of your goal.
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Old 04-30-2007, 03:57 AM
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It seems to me that you're saying that
1) you're not sure if your poker playing is +$EV and
2) you're a gambler willing to take a big risk on a straight-up coin-flip or worse.

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3) she is joking.

Wanna know more about fslexcduck? See last years WSOP coverage on ESPN - Vanessa gets lots of airtime.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:46 AM
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As long as she has ANY clue about BJ, and doesn't play those retarded 6-5 games, about the bigggest edge against her will only be 1%, but most likely, .5%, so basically, she's tossing away a sawbuck or two each time.

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What're the odds in BJ if you're doing an all-or-nothing single bet? So you aren't going to be able to split or double down? I imagine you're giving up two or three percent.

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What is the probability of winning any given hand in blackjack?

Under Atlantic City rules the probability of a net win is 43.31%, a tie is 8.80%, and a loss is 47.89%.

as per the wizard. There is no data available that I could find if you cannot split or double down, but I did ask the Wizard so we might learn soon enough.

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But is it different if you slipped the floorman a redbird when you arrived at the pokerroom?
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:47 AM
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But is it different if you slipped the floorman a redbird when you arrived at the pokerroom?

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Boy. You people like to live life on the edge. Don't mess with the bull...
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: Good way to maximize emotional EV

When I'm stuck big after a long session my self imposed "punishment" is to review all the major leaks in my game I can find and re-read at least one book that I respect a lot. On one occasion I created a one page spreadsheet of starting hands I should play (from two books) and made myself abide by it literally, for one week of on-line play. Recently I ammended that spreadsheet using SSHE after a particularly brutal live session.
The result is that I don't minimize the stupidity that led to the huge bad session - and I end up feeling that I have improved my game which does wonders to my self confidence.

When I'm stuck small after a session getting back to even for the day doesn't matter. I no longer play black jack, roulette, or any other games of pure chance because its clearly -EV and I don't need the rush.
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