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Old 09-02-2007, 03:56 PM
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So, no other deep-stack players think I should have just smooth-called his initial bet, on the theory that it's a marginal situation, so I should keep the pot small?
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:03 PM
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i would also raise, but prob woulda raised a little less under the assumption that it would allow me to get action from a wider range
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

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i would not be shocked - in the slightest - to see villain flip over AA here.

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oh c'mon. op said he had no particular reads on villain, he didn't say he had a specific read that villain was braindead.

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people do [censored] stupid stuff, it's why deep is awesome, and it's why you cant ever fold here.

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tbh, i usually call here anyway, simply because i have pretty much never folded a set on the flop, but i think that's a leak. sure, occasionally he turns over some retarded crap, but i'm convinced that this is NOT a profitable call.
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:13 PM
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i would not be shocked - in the slightest - to see villain flip over AA here.

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oh c'mon. op said he had no particular reads on villain, he didn't say he had a specific read that villain was braindead.

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people do [censored] stupid stuff, it's why deep is awesome, and it's why you cant ever fold here.

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tbh, i usually call here anyway, simply because i have pretty much never folded a set on the flop, but i think that's a leak. sure, occasionally he turns over some retarded crap, but i'm convinced that this is NOT a profitable call.

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So you don't think he would do this with a set? Because if his range is 86s,44,77 then it is profitable. And if he does occassionally turn over something retarded, then it is even more profitable.

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As you say, if we add 86o or 63s to his range, then it is slightly unprofitable. I'm just not sure that these are more reasonable holdings than, say, 75s.
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

results?
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:29 PM
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results?

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He had 86s.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:33 PM
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yea but sometimes he has AA so whatever.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:35 PM
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I would fistpump before I call.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:37 PM
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bobbo what is your cut off point for folding here given only the info we have in OP -- $10k, $20k, $50k?
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:45 PM
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I would fistpump before I call.

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no, you wouldn't.
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