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Old 02-06-2007, 10:53 PM
moneyshot moneyshot is offline
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Default Re: 600/1200 river

agreed, random 2 pair is the most likely hand given the play (KQ most likely). He has to bet JT or a set on the river since it is unlikely you will be a one pair hand and it is unlikely you have air based on the play.

AK is probably the only hand you are behind (and that's only if he is tricky enough to just call preflop-- i love to cold call AK OOP but most of y'all usually rip me for it.)
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: 600/1200 river

he obviously has something like K9 so it doesn't really matter what you do
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:10 PM
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I am surprised that he checkcalled the river with 54 when you had 66. Your play on the earlier streets should not have had him thinking "yikes, that bastard schnieds has a boat"

Anyway, that history is relevant to your AQ hand and it makes a bet from you more appealing as it's unlikley that he is planning on checkraising you with JT (this is particularly so if the Ace on the flop was not a spade as he then has to consider the possibility that you put in 3 bets on the turn on the strength of an ace/two pairs with a nut flush draw. This is so even though you did not call his turn 3 bet instantly as the rest of us schmucks tend to do when we have a flush draw)

At the end of the day, leaving aside all mental gymnastics (which only you can properly assess as you were there), a check on the end here means that he doesn't like his hand. If he had JT, I think he bets. If he had AK, I think he bets.

He didn't bet. So, you should.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: 600/1200 river

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this makes it a clear bet. If Neverwin was on a combo of ecstasy and 'shrooms, then you should check behind.

What was the nature of the argument that got Dustin "suspended for 7 days?" Lol.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:43 AM
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I think its a bet. If he bet into you on the river, you're calling, I don't think he's risking it being checked through with JT or AK. I think he has KQ and realized he's behind.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:50 AM
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Seems simple on first glance but now I think its a tough spot for sure. I would have bet quickly but now I think I'm getting checkraised or he's folding often. Not much to add I guess but interesting spot.

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Old 02-07-2007, 04:52 AM
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Seems simple on first glance but now I think its a tough spot for sure. I would have bet quickly but now I think I'm getting checkraised or he's folding often. Not much to add I guess but interesting spot.

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ya that was my original impression... i think i would bet without much hesitation and he would either muck (not sure what though...) relatively quickly or raise me and i would puke

so is check better? or would he 3 bet/check a worse 2 pair? seems hard to grasp that play

thats why check seems better
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:36 AM
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:37 AM
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hes got KT or Kx, man up and bet....you win


I win??
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: 600/1200 river

Just wanted to amend my first comment. I would have bet, as I said before, but after thinking about the hand a while longer I think a check is in order.

What can he call you with on this river? The hands you'd want to call your river bet bet out, weaker ones are check folding, and if you're beat you're getting check raised.

Change my vote to check.
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