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Old 09-21-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

vil is kmoneyk10, a respectable reg running at 24/21/3. He genrally plays quite passively against me because im somewhat of a nit (19/15 or so). I put him on QJ here....thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $1,591.00
BB: $1,085.00
UTG: $1,073.00
CO: $185.00
BTN: $1,368.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, BB calls $20.00

Flop: ($60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, BB calls $50.00

Turn: ($160) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $120.00</font>, BB calls $120.00

River: ($400) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $305.00</font>

Pot Size: $705.00


Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$505.00)
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

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I put him on QJ here....thoughts?

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If that's your read bet 150 on the turn and shove the river.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

i don't put him on QJ. That could have well dropped the turn, as it could be drawing dead or most of the time drawing with no implied odds. Very easy for him to see that he's beat and has no implied odds on the turn.

I think he mostly has T8s 98s ATdd KTdd which all call you're river bet.

Overbet bluff feels great here.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

give up on the river
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

QJ does not drop this turn......r u serious? its bvb...i think there are a lot of Q+pair combos. Also, he doesnt have an 8 or he wouldve raised the turn, so as long as he doesnt have diamonds hes folding. im pretty sure this is a profitable 3rd barrel....id like more opinions tho.

and as for betting 150 and turn and pushing river if i put him on qj, that simply doesnt make sense. QJ is folding to this line always, no need to risk a bunch more money.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:42 PM
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pointless getting opinions if you know he has xQ, can't have 8 and only calls with diamonds.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

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pointless getting opinions if you know he has xQ, can't have 8 and only calls with diamonds.

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i said i "THINK" and never said "know". I stated my opinion, im looking for others that i might actually agree with.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:03 AM
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right, but what possible more can there be to it. if you're confident he could hold qt qj, feel confident he'd raise 8x. then how can it be anything else? QT QJ fold and they outway the diamonds and the times you are wrong about 8x or wrong about qj folding. qk might show up, but i doubt all these add up enough if you're confident about the rest.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: nl1k - bvb vs kmoney

It's bvb and he has position...... he's never ever folding QJ or QT on the turn ever. Given that he likely has some 1 pair hand I don't mind river but you definitely get looked up here a good amount I would think.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:23 AM
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It's bvb and he has position...... he's never ever folding QJ or QT on the turn ever. Given that he likely has some 1 pair hand I don't mind river but you definitely get looked up here a good amount I would think.

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get looked up by what?
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