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#1
11-25-2007, 03:07 AM
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cbet, valuebet, bluff?
ftp 2/4 eff stax 100bb
villain is multitabling and playing fairly standard tag as far as i can tell. i am playing about 24/20 and haven't been caught doing anything out of line. he and i have not been involved in any pots beyond the flop, either. i open 45o in the CO, he calls SB. flop 752 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30) he c/c $22 turn 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($74) he c/c $59 river 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($192) he checks... 
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#2
11-25-2007, 03:22 AM
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Re: cbet, valuebet, bluff?
Overbet. ~$220-240. 88-TT will fold.
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#4
11-25-2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: cbet, valuebet, bluff?
How is his range made up here?
He has 88-TT, 66 some good percentage of the time. These are the hands you want to bluff. He also has 2 spades + 2 overcards or 2 spades + 1 pair here some percentage of the time or 7x or maybe a missed oesd. These are the hands you don't want to bluff. I guess these combos are a bigger percentage than 66, 88-TT, so bluffing here doesn't look good.
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#6
11-25-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: cbet, valuebet, bluff?
I check this down. All a bet does is open missed spades to bluff. And your hand isn't strong enough to call him out.
Not in agreement that an overbet will fold 88-TT by the way...
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#8
11-26-2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: cbet, valuebet, bluff?
Speedlimits,
"I like checking these flops a lot. mid pair hands when its checked through because we can't stand a c/r." Who cares. So we fold then. Its not like you have a powerhouse, nor do you have a hand you are troubled with having to let go. You have a hand that would love to take the pot right there. And if he calls, so be it, play poker, you still have a hand...
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#9
11-26-2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: cbet, valuebet, bluff?
[ QUOTE ]
Speedlimits, "I like checking these flops a lot. mid pair hands when its checked through because we can't stand a c/r." Who cares. So we fold then. Its not like you have a powerhouse, nor do you have a hand you are troubled with having to let go. You have a hand that would love to take the pot right there. And if he calls, so be it, play poker, you still have a hand... [/ QUOTE ] I don't see why we don't check and play poker on the turn and river w/ more information.
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#10
11-26-2007, 01:30 AM
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Re: cbet, valuebet, bluff?
[ QUOTE ]
Speedlimits, "I like checking these flops a lot. mid pair hands when its checked through because we can't stand a c/r." Who cares. So we fold then. Its not like you have a powerhouse, nor do you have a hand you are troubled with having to let go. You have a hand that would love to take the pot right there. And if he calls, so be it, play poker, you still have a hand... [/ QUOTE ] lol awesome post
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