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Old 10-28-2007, 08:39 PM
AceofSpades AceofSpades is offline
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Default QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

I think I played this optimally, what do you guys think?

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Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: 4,965
SB: 489
Hero (BB): 5,345
UTG: 2,290
UTG+1: 7,567
UTG+2: 6,070
MP1: 2,397
MP2: 960
CO: 6,210

Pre-Flop: (90) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to 180</font>, 7 folds, Hero calls 120

Flop: (390) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets 180</font>, Hero calls 180

Turn: (750) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets 480</font>, Hero calls 480

River: (1,710) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets 1,450 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: 1,710 Pot
UTG mucked and WON 1,710 (+870 NET)
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:43 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

c/r flop, I think turn is a c/f as played.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:48 PM
MVPaul MVPaul is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

Why would you not raise the flop?
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:20 PM
Seventh_Street Seventh_Street is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

Pf call is fine, but the way you played the flop I think the turn is a pretty easy fold.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

i think a raise after flop to see where u are in the hand . its poss a raise mite have won u the hand
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:57 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

the turn was perfect spot for a hammer raise putting him all in. i fold when king hits on river too as played.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:55 AM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

Gotta raise either the flop or the turn. Can't play that passive in tournaments.

River is a clear fold.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:19 AM
baltostar baltostar is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

I take this way up pre-flop, but whatever.

I assume you're checking flop b/c villain likes to c-bet. If so, why wouldn't you c/r this flop? If he calls, you're in pot control mode.

If villain is not a pattern c-better, you should lead the flop. Hero has the likely best hand, but not a monster, and so should take the lead in controlling the pot size.

As played, looks very much like villain has a J or a FD. He has no fear of the Kd on the river. Fold.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:30 AM
ThePershore ThePershore is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

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I think I played this optimally...

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I don't.

Raise pf, as played c/raise flop or lead flop dependent on reads on villian.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:00 AM
LordRaven LordRaven is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB vs UTG raiser

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I think I played this optimally...

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I don't.

Raise pf, as played c/raise flop or lead flop dependent on reads on villian.

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Worst play - ever! At no time during the hand did you have any idea what you where up against. Bet that flop!
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