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Old 05-16-2007, 09:36 PM
stevepa stevepa is offline
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Default lol donkaments, a 100r hand

Guy is pretty loose passive over like 30 hands (42/10/1.0) through like 30 hands. Not sure how much of that was during rebuy period, but not much. Do you like the turn call? And how much do you call on the river if he bets? How often do you bluff shove the river over a tiny bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 (t11225)
MP3 (t5125)
Hero (t5680)
Button (t18730)
SB (t10433)
BB (t6470)
UTG (t9835)
UTG+1 (t15397)
MP1 (t4220)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1300) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400.

Turn: (t2100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t600</font>, Hero calls t600?

Final Pot: t3700

Steve
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:39 PM
NHFunkii NHFunkii is offline
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

bleh, I usually just calldown and lose to A5. But sometimes I calldown and win. I should start keeping track of proportions, but I'm guessing you should just fold turn. Bluffshoving river is intriguing, but I wouldn't trust him to fold A5 given this betting strategy, so I don't really like it. But I've never really tried it so I dunno.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

so terrible lol. good title.

i think river bluff shove is gross this shallow though.

i like the rest of what funki said tho. i love calling down and beating like 66 or something here
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

I like both calls. Most bad players use this as pot control with a mid pair or weak ace. He'll never fold an A if we raise, and never call a worse pair.

Good hand.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

I'd fold to 1200 or more on the river I think. If he doubles his bet, it starts to look really strong.

Really don't think you can even consider folding the turn. Think we're ahead like 40% here or so. Like Bond said, this is a mid pair a lot.

Bluff shoving the river seems really cool, but I can't imagine it being +EV.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

I hate these friggin' bets. I think you have to call the turn bet because of the odds you're getting (and I do think you're good here enough to warrant a call).

If his river bet ever becomes more than 1/1000000th of the pot though on the river, you can be reasonably sure he has an A and fold. Otherwise, just call down.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

I mainly posted this hand because the result was pretty damn funny. River 9. He minbets 200, I laugh and call, he shows 75o.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

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I mainly posted this hand because the result was pretty damn funny. River 9. He minbets 200, I laugh and call, he shows 75o.

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Raise the turn, he'll pay off with a double gutter
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

hmmm, loose-passive player leading small on a ragged ace high flop into the preflop raiser on two streets? I think this is typically at least a weak ace. I bluff-raise the river versus this opponent basically never, unless I think they're capable of folding a weak ace (which typically they don't). Also, I think you can fold the turn, even though it seems weak.

I suppose that vs. some players this weak-lead is an 8 or smaller pocket pair wanting to see a showdown -- I think if you call the turn you should just call another small river bet, as I doubt he folds an ace, but you're ahead of almost all the rest of the hands in a typical donking range.
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: lol donkaments, a 100r hand

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I mainly posted this hand because the result was pretty damn funny. River 9. He minbets 200, I laugh and call, he shows 75o.

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Raise the turn, he'll pay off with a double gutter

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Results-oriented, but I assume a joke anyway.
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