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Old 11-25-2007, 01:08 PM
sence25 sence25 is offline
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Default 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

Hi, how do you like this?
You could certainly make a point for folding pf.
Sidenote: villain loves to make hero calls.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t2940)
UTG (t6610)
MP (t3640)
Button (t3310)
SB (t3500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: (t900) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, UTG calls t500.

River: (t1900) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero shoves [t2040]
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

Against an UTG min-raise I would fold this pre-flop. As played you need to bet out the flop though to protect your hand vs. any flush draw, AK/AT/AQ/AJ etc type of hand. And it gives him the chance to push on you, in which case you'd be happy to call.
So id bet out 600 in this pot; call a re-push.. or push any "blank" turn card if he calls my flop bet.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

I think going for a CR is best, we can expect villain to bet a large percentage of the time in position. PF is meh b/c unless you flop something big, you'll be pretty unsure of your hand.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

What about river?
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

I'd probably only bet 1000 to price him in, but as OP said, he liked to make hero calls, so I can see the value in shoving too. 1000 probably gets paid off more often and I would say is better.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

I'm not calling this preflop. Maybe if it was soooted, but not with a medium chip stack and bad position.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

think im just dumping pf but it cant be that bad.

i think its unlikely he'll call this so id go for more of a value-town bet, maybe ~900-1000
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

i retract, didnt see the read earlier, with the read the river seems fine.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 33$ - QJ against donkish minraise, flopping biig

fold, pf. Please lead flop. please bet bigger on turn. Shove is sexy/
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