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Old 11-09-2007, 04:50 AM
Freer0llin Freer0llin is offline
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Default All in or...?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $25.80
BB: $81.50
UTG: $82.65
MP: $63.70
CO: $50
Hero (BTN): $81.50

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">MP bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8

River: ($33.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $33.50</font>

Put him all in or save money against a better hand?
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: All in or...?

First of all: raise to like 2.50-3.00 preflop, so I go from there.

I would just cbet this flop for little over half the pot, since it isn't draw-heavy or dangerous. Bet turn &amp; bet river for value.

As played: easy shove imo.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:55 AM
FalconTi0 FalconTi0 is offline
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Default Re: All in or...?

thats tough, any stats? i almost think he either slowplayed 66 or something like QJ or AJ.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:00 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: All in or...?

KcTc is possible, and I suppose KTo for the multiway flop bluff followed by a very loose call of the raise can't be ruled out, but this seems like an easy river push. I mean, a sandbagged AA or other set is possible too, but aces up seems rather likely, really.

Anyway, you're obviously calling, and a push is only $13 more, so it's not even that expensive when you are beat.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:05 AM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Preflop is fine if a raise won't get the pot heads up.

On the flop I raise more. To like 9 dollars.

On the turn I bet like 2/3 pot.

On the river I am happy getting it in. What are you afraid of? The only hand that got there on the river was KT or a higher set. If he has a higher set, so be it. But I think it's much more likely to see AQ and things like that.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:11 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: All in or...?

Raise pre-flop.

Raise more on the flop.

Bet more on the turn.

Shove the river.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:17 AM
kendal14 kendal14 is offline
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $25.80
BB: $81.50
UTG: $82.65
MP: $63.70
CO: $50
Hero (BTN): $81.50

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">MP bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8

River: ($33.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $33.50</font>

If I check the turn, it's only to push it in on the river. I would bet on the run. Why call the raise on the flop... if only to just call the river bet on a dray board? I raise the turn... if not, I raise the river. But I am spewy. Interested to hear others.

Put him all in or save money against a better hand?

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If I check the turn, it's only to push it in on the river. I would bet on the turn. Why call the raise on the flop... if only to just call the river bet on a dray board? I raise the turn... if not, I raise the river. But I am spewy. Interested to hear others.

Also, I raise PF.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:06 AM
cd77 cd77 is offline
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Default Re: All in or...?

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I would just cbet this flop for little over half the pot, since it isn't draw-heavy or dangerous.

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Isnt draw-heavy? with a flushdraw possibility and an open-ender out there i consider it quite draw heavy--especially for limped hands.

Raise to 3 pf, bet 3/4 pot on flop (raising if donked into) and bet turn and river for value
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: All in or...?

preflop is fine, raising is fine too, but w/e its pre.

flop id make just a tad larger

your turn betsize is awful, make it 15 and you have an easy river shove.

once you get there the only reasonable hand that beats you is KcTc but i think he has aces up often enough to shove and have it be higher EV than just calling here.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: All in or...?

Turn bet is way too small, I would go for at least 12. As played I would definitely shove, if he has a straight he is the worst player in history but as hobo said this looks more like aces up or a busted draw. You really cant be beat very often here, if you are, its a cooler imo.
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