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Old 10-23-2007, 01:02 PM
DougG DougG is offline
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Default OOP vs one of you?

Villain is a multitabling TAG who I'll often see playing every 3/6 table; maybe a little ag and a little bit of an anti-showdown monkey, but I'd guess he's (you're?) one of the stronger players at this level.

I've only been playing on Stars since the beginning of the month and we've played maybe 200 hands since then. I probably look TAG-ish and a little bit like a showdown monkey, but I did a lot of folding postflop early in this session.

After I check-3bet the flop, what's villain's (your?) capping range?


PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (16.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: OOP vs one of you?

you're still ahead fairly often on the turn that I'd actually like to put in more bets. The river is maybe the grossest card in the deck for you and a strong case can be made for c/f'ing.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:00 PM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Re: OOP vs one of you?

flop capping range = AA/KK/TT/AK, AQdd. not much else. You are still ahead of lots on the turn, and he will bet it about 100% of the time. So I like a turn c/r and calldown further action.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: OOP vs one of you?

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you're still ahead fairly often on the turn that I'd actually like to put in more bets. The river is maybe the grossest card in the deck for you and a strong case can be made for c/f'ing.

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Check fold the river and this hand is perfect.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:13 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: OOP vs one of you?

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flop capping range = AA/KK/TT/AK, AQdd. not much else. You are still ahead of lots on the turn, and he will bet it about 100% of the time. So I like a turn c/r and calldown further action.

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Since we need 2:1 it's pretty close:



Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

748 games 0.032 secs 23,375 games/sec

Board: Kd Td 2d 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.914% 67.91% 00.00% 508 0.00 { KhTh }
Hand 1: 32.086% 32.09% 00.00% 240 0.00 { KK+, TT, AKs, AdQd, AKo }


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Old 10-23-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: OOP vs one of you?

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you're still ahead fairly often on the turn that I'd actually like to put in more bets. The river is maybe the grossest card in the deck for you and a strong case can be made for c/f'ing.

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Check fold the river and this hand is perfect.

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I generally hate to fold big pots hu on the river for one bet (because [censored] him, that's why...) (that should be my new undertitle...) but what can you possibly be beating on the river, unless he went all drunk and spazz with KQ/QQ/JJ?
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:54 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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you're still ahead fairly often on the turn that I'd actually like to put in more bets. The river is maybe the grossest card in the deck for you and a strong case can be made for c/f'ing.

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Thats enough reason for me to call in a pot this size.

Check fold the river and this hand is perfect.

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I generally hate to fold big pots hu on the river for one bet (because [censored] him, that's why...) (that should be my new undertitle...) but what can you possibly be beating on the river, unless he went all drunk and spazz with KQ/QQ/JJ?

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Thats all it takes for me to call in a pot this size.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:06 PM
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This is the type of hand where you see the river and scream "WTF," and then scroll through past hand histories for any indication that Villain is on tilt so you can justify a call.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:09 PM
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This is the type of hand where you see the river and scream "WTF," and then scroll through past hand histories for any indication that Villain is on tilt so you can justify a call.

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He's a multitabling TAG. He's not fooling around here enough to call. Just wait until he looks weak and raise with any 2 so he will fold because he doesn't have time to think through the hand will all of the furious clicking going on (sethy?)
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: OOP vs one of you?

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I generally hate to fold big pots hu on the river for one bet (because [censored] him, that's why...) (that should be my new undertitle...) but what can you possibly be beating on the river, unless he went all drunk and spazz with KQ/QQ/JJ?

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Pretty much my thoughts on the river. It went check/bet/[censored]..........I'm not beating anything am I?........[censored]...........well, it's 15bb = call and he showed AK no diamond.

I wouldn't have capped AK on this flop in position -- given that he did, I wondered afterwards how wide his range was.


EDIT: also meant to say: If I'm villain here, hero is never ahead after that diamond on the turn. Maybe I'm not capping enough flops?
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