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Old 10-02-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

4 players

2 folds, Hero raises KcKd in sb, BB calls

Flop: jc10s9s

Hero Bets, BB reraises, Hero 3-bets

Turn: Qc

Hero Bets, BB reraises, Hero 3-bets, BB Caps

River:6s
BB bets, Hero ??

Villian seems weaktight folds a lot of flops
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

Thats certainly a blank river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What do you wantto do on the river? Seriously, did you really think about something else than calling?
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK


Meh - just remembered DDs "When you are confused just call"

To add something on villian: usually he isnt raising a draw on the flop
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

what is he playing this way that you beat?

Hint: you should call
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

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i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK

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U think a weak tight player puts in 4 bets on the turn with an 8 or less?
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

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i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK

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How often will he hold a calling hand not including a K, compared to how often he will hold AK?
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Feel lost after KK makes a straight on the turn

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i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK

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U think a weak tight player puts in 4 bets on the turn with an 8 or less?

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No.. i was just pretty confused by the agression on both the flop and the turn
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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River raise is really not good.

Heros hand looks good considering villain prolly doesnt have AK very often. The problem is he doesnt have a worse hand either very often.

My first thought when I saw the turn 3-bet was "spew", then I realized the preflop action and figured it was ok. However, after he caps the turn hero should just call down hoping for a chop which he will get the vast majority of the time.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:56 PM
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i certainly dont wanna fold, i really want to raise but it could be a oddly played AK

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U think a weak tight player puts in 4 bets on the turn with an 8 or less?

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No.. i was just pretty confused by the agression on both the flop and the turn

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Then why would you ever want to raise if there isnt a worse hand in his range?
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:09 PM
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he has AK, obvious fold on river
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