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Old 11-26-2007, 07:56 PM
Fulzgold Fulzgold is offline
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Default SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

son of a bitch. this is a blind war, no read on villian. Call river? Anyone fold here? getting over 2/1 on river.
Stacks:
BTN ($26.98)
SB ($27.70)
Hero ($37.49)

Pre-flop: ($0.3, 3 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, <font color="#272BA6">SB raises to $0.7</font>, <font color="#B93238">Hero calls $0.5</font>

Flop: ($1.4, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.4, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#272BA6">Hero bets $1.4</font>, <font color="#272BA6">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#272BA6">Hero raises to $9.4</font>, <font color="#B93238">SB calls $5.4</font>

River: ($20.2, 2 players)
<font color="#272BA6">SB goes all-in $17.7</font>, <font color="#B93238">
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

What's with the near minraise on the turn?

Raise more on the turn, snap call the river.

As played, I call the river, but I'm not happy about it.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

Any reads on Villian? AJ/AT are a large part of the average Villian's range for open-raising from the SB. With the action on the turn it's hard to put Villian on a lone J. It really looks like he has 2-pair or less likely a set on the turn, and then fills up. Any kind of read would be very helpful. I think the chances of this being a bluff is very low. Getting 2-1 I still think you have to fold.

Edit - And I agree with bored that you need to raise more on the turn if you're going to raise.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

His line makes no sense, he should be betting the flop with AJ. If he's bad enough to go for a check raise on the turn he's bad enough to hold KQ here. By the same token he's also bad enough to hold any boat ( AA/AJ/TT,33,JJ/TJ).

It's very close, you're calling 17.7 to win 37.90. You need to be good ~45% here.

You only have about 30% equity against TJ/KQ.

I think this is a fold. Can't see AK/AQ/Jx making this sort of play.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

yea, raise to at least 11 on turn, river is a crying call.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:45 PM
DemonOfTheFall DemonOfTheFall is offline
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

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What's with the near minraise on the turn?

Raise more on the turn, snap call the river.

As played, I call the river, but I'm not happy about it.

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Agree with raising this turn for more. By letting him call, you're allowing him to play perfectly.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

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yea, raise to at least 11 on turn, river is a crying call.

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What are we beating? I usually give unknowns with full stacks credit on these kinds of boards. Donks usually try and bluff you on lowish boards but hardly ever on this scary a board.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

I'd come out with a much larger turn range, and I'd have to call the river.
Did he try to get sneaky with AA or 1010?
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: SICK SICK - Board pairs on broadway, over 2/1 river

i concede, larger turn raise.
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