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Old 09-30-2007, 02:12 AM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

Have only been playing a few orbits, villian is one of the spots at the table 'paymybill' on FTP. Have played him 5-10 hu where he was terrible, and at other various stakes, so I know he's bad, but my read on him is very general. I think stacks are EXTREMELY awkward for this entire hand. The flop and turn were both insta for him, so I'm not sure if this is a random jack, another draw, etc.

FWIW I'd be more inclined to play AQdd on JT6dd much faster vs him because he's definitely capable of getting a worse draw in 200 bbs deep.

Would like to know about flop, and obviously turn, but moreso flop prob.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $30 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($9760)
ae [censored] jones ($6387)
BB ($6302)
UTG ($11135.50)
MP ($6579)
CO ($2955)

Preflop: ae [censored] jones is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones raises to $90</font>, BB calls $60.

Flop: ($180) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones bets $150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $630</font>, ae [censored] jones calls $480.

Turn: ($1440) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
ae [censored] jones checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1440</font>,
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

Flop I don't have much of a problem with. I'd prolly 3 bet but whatever.

Turn looks to me like a fold.
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

yah id fold turn
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

durr says hed call and c/c AI on most rivers

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Old 09-30-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

agnh why dont u 3bomb flop
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

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agnh why dont u 3bomb flop

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he hates to fold, i'm basically sticking 200 bbs in vs a fish with king high, and he can have the ace high flush draw

i fully expect him to stack off with QJ here. like i make it 1900 and he might flat, lolz
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

Yah.. I think 2kish 3 bet on flop makes the hand much easier to play. Turns a fold as played. Cant hurt to wait for better spots as played.. you'll have him in worse shape within a few orbits.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: real stupid spot 15-30 with big draw vs fish

I like the flop call better than 3betting given stacks and the opponent.

Turn is a fold though, methinks. If you can get him off any top pair hand then I don't mind c/r ai on turn at all, but given you description of him that seems like the worst line to take.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:17 PM
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Yah.. I think 2kish 3 bet on flop makes the hand much easier to play. Turns a fold as played. Cant hurt to wait for better spots as played.. you'll have him in worse shape within a few orbits.

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i'm not really looking to make the hand easier to play

god i felt dirty playing like this and folding it
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