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#11
07-30-2007, 10:53 PM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
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calll he knows you don't have the ace and is betting most of his range here. And you beat most of his range. [/ QUOTE ] I check behind turn with AK/AQ for pot control shaun. 
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#12
07-30-2007, 11:25 PM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
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[ QUOTE ] calll he knows you don't have the ace and is betting most of his range here. And you beat most of his range. [/ QUOTE ] I check behind turn with AK/AQ for pot control shaun. [/ QUOTE ] So you call river bet with AK/AQ? If you do then call with KK because suh a small % of his range is stregthened by that ace, so therefore AK and KK have the almost identical value vs his range.
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#13
07-30-2007, 11:33 PM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
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What hand can villain have that is bluffing? I think it's rare to see a random tournament player smart enough to turn a made hand into a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Really? From my experience checking an A induces a bluff from almost everyone on the next street. Good and bad. I think even bad players know that they are bluffing when they bet JJ here. Regards, Woodguy
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#14
07-30-2007, 11:48 PM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
I think players turn 88-QQ into bluffs here all the time
I also think its close to impossible villain has Ax Calling 3bet OOP: Eliminates all but AQ-AK Floating flop OOP: Eliminates AQ-AK Now I may be giving villain too much credit, but I really feel like the average 1kmtt player never has an A here.
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#15
07-30-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
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I think players turn 88-QQ into bluffs here all the time I also think its close to impossible villain has Ax Calling 3bet OOP: Eliminates all but AQ-AK Floating flop OOP: Eliminates AQ-AK Now I may be giving villain too much credit, but I really feel like the average 1kmtt player never has an A here. [/ QUOTE ] whats about AA!!! oh fyi, i call!
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#16
07-30-2007, 11:58 PM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
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[ QUOTE ] I think players turn 88-QQ into bluffs here all the time I also think its close to impossible villain has Ax Calling 3bet OOP: Eliminates all but AQ-AK Floating flop OOP: Eliminates AQ-AK Now I may be giving villain too much credit, but I really feel like the average 1kmtt player never has an A here. [/ QUOTE ] whats about AA!!! oh fyi, i call! [/ QUOTE ] AA would c/r flop imo But if he has AA, we save our stack since he played it weird so be happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#18
07-31-2007, 12:05 AM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
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i've never heard of the guy, therefore its a fold, but its as ansky says, stop assuming someone intelligent and remember that all tourney donks are donks. [/ QUOTE ] ok so what does he have?
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#20
07-31-2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: FTP $1k Monday River Decision with KK
He probably flopped the nuts and played it terrible. Either that or he's turning some stupid hand into a bluff. In a big buyin tourney like the $1K I'm generally more inclinded to think people are playing too nitty early on than running huge bluffs. The A really shouldn't be relevant though but I guess there's a chance he made aces up or somrthing stupid. It's probably a fold but this is usually where I tilt call.
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