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Old 06-18-2007, 01:10 AM
NoahL NoahL is offline
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Default Re: 3k NL WSOP - standard? overplayed?

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

I don;t know if you have 14 outs.

I try to get there cheaply against a bad player who is known to stack off with weak hands. If you hit you're good, and if you don't, you lose the min. But no reason to force a big pot against a bad player. He'll pay you off when you hit anyway.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 3k NL WSOP - standard? overplayed?

wiat wtf

if starting stacks are 3k i like

if they are 6k i dont like
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:13 AM
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wait, ansky is in israel?
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: 3k NL WSOP - standard? overplayed?

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Just flat call the reraise to 450. Don't 3-bet

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It's a fancy hand. But, you aren't that much ahead against his pushing ranges. The worst hand for his push - he could have nut flush draw and pair up his Ace or kicker on the turn/river.

As played, fold. Save 4K and you can still play poker at 25/50.
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:02 AM
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Well it looks like you are up against two pair here like always. I might just call the raise...if you raise to 1250 calling a push is obviously an obligation.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: 3k NL WSOP - standard? overplayed?

I think 3betting is horrid, but if you 3bet it's because you can snapcall and gamble so you can go play 100/200 NL or something. Call the raise, play a turn. You have a ton of implied odds.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:48 AM
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I think 3betting is horrid, but if you 3bet it's because you can snapcall and gamble so you can go play 100/200 NL or something. Call the raise, play a turn. You have a ton of implied odds.

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Absolutely spot on.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:07 AM
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You have a ton of implied odds.

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Not really.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:59 AM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: 3k NL WSOP - standard? overplayed?

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You have a ton of implied odds.

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Not really.

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True, b/c villain will probably check behind on the turn if the flush card hits and when hero tries to bet the river his hand really looks like a flush (and could get paid off anyway). But I wouldn't say the implied odds are huge.

Leading a club turn would be pretty cool but either way I doubt you win a big pot if you make your hand.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:06 PM
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Blinds are 25/50 and I think we started with 60bbs. I've been opening almost every hand for the first 2 orbits. Both young guys on my left have reraised me once.





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why are you raising this much in the first level of a donkament?
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