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Old 11-27-2007, 04:42 PM
myke11 myke11 is offline
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Default $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

Villian is oO_JAY_AM_Oo, who i have as 13/10ish over 150 hands.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $197
Hero (CO): $349
BTN: $84.55
SB: $261.55
BB: $688.55
UTG: $269

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $26</font>, Hero calls $18

Flop: ($53) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $44</font>, Hero calls $44

Turn: ($141) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($141) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $76</font>

I want to know what everyone thinks of shoving this river as opposed to calling it. (or maybe you fold)
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

Maybe AxQs
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

Shoving river seems like spew to me. Calling and folding are both fine imo
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

y would u shove river??

i think calling is ok as well, though i'm a nit and prolly fold
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

Shoving makes JsJx QsQx TsTx fold... i hope. I think folding here is bad, but thats just me
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

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Shoving makes JsJx QsQx TsTx fold... i hope. I think folding here is bad, but thats just me

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What hand would you ever play this way that has the king of spades in it? If I'm the villian and I got shoved on, I'm definitely calling with QsQx...
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

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Shoving makes JsJx QsQx TsTx fold... i hope. I think folding here is bad, but thats just me

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What hand would you ever play this way that has the king of spades in it? If I'm the villian and I got shoved on, I'm definitely calling with QsQx...

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A float, KK.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

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Shoving makes JsJx QsQx TsTx fold... i hope. I think folding here is bad, but thats just me

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What hand would you ever play this way that has the king of spades in it? If I'm the villian and I got shoved on, I'm definitely calling with QsQx...

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People that play 200 on stars know that i am a regular who plays very crazy in 3b pots. I can float this flop with complete air, and often will do so. I could also have AxKs and decide not to 4b due to stack sizes, which is completely reasonable. I highly doubt youd try to bet/call this river for stacks instantly with QxQs. Not many players are going to bluff shove this river.


2+2 makes me sad for the amount of close-minded thinking on these forums. I think this whole area of the game (turning made hands that figure to be good a large % of the time into bluffs) deserves alot of discussion. However, people choose to avoid this stuff because it isnt standard. You cannot play great poker without an open mind.

Now flame away...
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: $200nl stars semi deep 3b pot

If you play very crazy in 3bet pots, why exactly wouldn't this be a trivial b/c with QsQx?
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:17 PM
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If you play very crazy in 3bet pots, why exactly wouldn't this be a trivial b/c with QsQx?

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Nevermind im stupidasjdkfakslfdj
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