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Old 11-11-2007, 11:42 PM
DerekJCEX DerekJCEX is offline
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Default 10/20 AA kinda lost

villain is 42/5/1.4 over 50 hands. no reads on him other than his stats. i'm 27/22 at this table and haven't really gotten out of line.

this hand happened about 20 hands earlier

Poker Stars, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $1,920.60
MP: $1,548.35
CO: $1,226
Hero (BTN): $2,455
SB: $1,772
BB: $3,251

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $20, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $60

Flop: ($190) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $140</font>, UTG calls $140

Turn: ($470) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $325</font>, UTG calls $325

River: ($1,120) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $500</font>, Hero folds

Results: $1,120 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG mucked and WON $1,117 (+$572 NET)

im pretty sure he was value betting Ah or Qh here.

Poker Stars, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $2,529.60
UTG: $1,315.35
MP: $1,196
Hero (CO): $2,080
BTN: $1,909
SB: $3,218

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $20, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80</font>, BTN calls $80, SB folds, BB calls $60, UTG calls $60

Flop: ($330) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $260</font>, BTN folds, BB calls $260, UTG folds

Turn: ($850) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $600</font>, BB calls $600

River: ($2,050) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1,589.60 and is All-In</font>

Results: $2,050 Pot ($2,050 Rake)
BB showed and LOST (-$940 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$940 NET)


he snap called the turn and took like 3 seconds before shoving river. two reasons i think he could be bluffing a missed flush draw is because of our previous hand and the speed of his turn call and river shove
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

i def call river
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

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i def call river

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there are like a million busted draws this donk shows up with.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

yea i'd call river pretty quick
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

if you think he called on the draw on the first hand then bet out when he hit it (like a high heart+ pair), i think he was calling with any number of draws to the river then realized he can rep something on the river, or he has exactly 6x of diamonds. Many more combos of busted draws than 6x diamonds, so if he has that...[censored] him.

The reason i dont think he can have 10's full or push a 4 for value is that i think he does more than call on this draw heavy of a board out of position before the turn with a set/two pair, and then if he hit trip 4's on the turn i think he comes to life then also.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

i like your line in both. i don't think people actually lead the river with a busted draw very often. and i think that it is not that unusual for a bad player to slowplay the turn with 4x and then make the dubious river push.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

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i like your line in both. i don't think people actually lead the river with a busted draw very often. and i think that it is not that unusual for a bad player to slowplay the turn with 4x and then make the dubious river push.

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random 42/5s lead out the river here with busted draws, ace high, some random pocket pair, all sorts of garbage.
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

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i like your line in both. i don't think people actually lead the river with a busted draw very often. and i think that it is not that unusual for a bad player to slowplay the turn with 4x and then make the dubious river push.

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random 42/5s lead out the river here with busted draws, ace high, some random pocket pair, all sorts of garbage.

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agree, 42/5/1.5 in particular means he's limping in with everything preflop and then actually putting in lots of bets with pretty weak hands postflop. folding hand one may have been a mistake, calling hand two is certainly correct.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 AA kinda lost

I would never fold here vs this guy
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:04 AM
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wouldn't fold this and definitely not getting 3:1
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