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Old 08-21-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Open-Ended Question in Reraised Pot

Stacks:
CO 2000
Hero (SB) 2000
BB 1000

CO is 25/10/3 tagfish, pretty good postflop, but is a little too passive preflop
BB is 30/5/1 fish

Preflop
CO raises to 30, Hero raises to 125, BB calls 115, CO calls 95.

Flop Pot: $375
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Hero bets 295, BB folds, CO raises to 590, Hero ???

1.) a. QQ one club
b. QQ no club
2.) a. JJ one club
b. JJ no club
3.) a. 1010 one club
b. 1010 no club

Push/Call/Fold or w/e you want to do... I'm just looking for some discussion
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: Open-Ended Question in Reraised Pot

I'd fold all the overpairs without clubs, and I'd probably dump TT/JJ with a club and call QQ. I don't think folding all of them is really bad either.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:18 PM
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I think that the general consensus would be very consistent with that a5, i just feel pretty differently about it
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:27 PM
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With your image I can see why you would have a hard time folding a lot of these hands. I suspect getting it in for most of us here who play pretty solid overall is going to be a big mistake, but for you it could be standard. I also really don't have much experience deepstacked like you do either. 100bbs I'd probably be all in with QQ/JJ (w/ club) and fold the rest, fwiw.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:40 PM
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I think the question becomes interesting with JJ or 1010.

With QQ, i think we are good here a lot because:
1.) He doesn't have AA or KK b/c he'd 4bet b/c he doesn't want a multiway pot.
2.) He doesn't have a set b/c he doesn't want to give me odds to draw out
3.) For the same reason as the set, I'd think he'd bet more with a flush, even a nut flush, to get more money in the pot. I'm not a 100% sure about this.

If you take those 3 assumptions, than villain has either a middle pair, draw, or flush. Most likely the probability of each hands is middle pair or draw. Also villain isn't going to fold the draw to a push and probably won't fold a middle pair to a push thinking that we could have a draw.

With JJ or 1010 it turns into a a tricker situation imo
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