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Old 10-26-2007, 07:40 AM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default Check up of general game in 3-betted pots

I have three scenarios where the pot is 3-betted and I want to know what your action is. All the pots are heads-up and villain is a standard TAG - i.e. playing with stats like 21/17/4 - and you are also a TAG. There is no especially history between you, you have no good reads on the other players at the table, the level is NL400 and everyone has full stacks.

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Scenario A:
Villain opens for $14 on the button and SB folds. You are in the BB and raises to $48. Villain calls.

Flop is:
I) Q82ds
II) J82r
III) A92ds

You bet 3/4 pot and villain makes a re-raise that commits himself.

My quesions for you:
What is you re-raising range pre-flop? And what is your pushing range on flop?
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I will give you the other two scenarios after this one has been discussed. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:12 AM
MATT111 MATT111 is offline
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Default Re: Check up of general game in 3-betted pots

On a general note I would 3-bet a bit bigger oop. Standard reraising range would be any pp, AQ+, adding scs and other big broadways in from time to time but this should really depend on how he plays post, recent history, etc.
Default on the flop: in a vacuum I think we would felt TP+ hands on any of those boards.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: Check up of general game in 3-betted pots

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On a general note I would 3-bet a bit bigger oop. Standard reraising range would be any pp, AQ+, adding scs and other big broadways in from time to time but this should really depend on how he plays post, recent history, etc.
Default on the flop: in a vacuum I think we would felt TP+ hands on any of those boards.

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Ya, I think that's pretty much my standard ATM. I agree with that it's a good idea to 3-bet a bit bigger. However, sometimes I dunno if it's good to go broke w/ KQ or QJ on Q72r b/c we will be [censored] very often. On the other hand KQ and QJ belong to the better hands in our range and it would be very explotiable if we fold them - but untill someone actually exploit it, it isn't a problem and maybe we should just fold if we are behind his range in a vacuum.

By the way I have seen people 3-bet w/ Axs from time to time. What should our general plan be on a Axxds and Axxr flop? I really don't have a favourite line. My standard ATM is bet flop and don't put any more money in.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: Check up of general game in 3-betted pots

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Old 10-26-2007, 01:31 PM
Choparno Choparno is offline
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Default Re: Check up of general game in 3-betted pots

I know you specified no special history between hero/villain, but my 3-betting range depends on his att to steal % and how wide I perceive his 3-bet calling range to be. Some 21/17s will be stealing about 22% and I'll respect it to a large degree, others are stealing 40% and will give up to 3-bets so I'll play back a lot more...
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:01 AM
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I know you specified no special history between hero/villain, but my 3-betting range depends on his att to steal % and how wide I perceive his 3-bet calling range to be. Some 21/17s will be stealing about 22% and I'll respect it to a large degree, others are stealing 40% and will give up to 3-bets so I'll play back a lot more...

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Ya, that is true - this is very opponent depending. But sometimes you haven't got a good read on your opponents and thus it can be good to have a standard line for those spots.
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