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Standard Hypothetical Situation.
Villain is bad. Assume he is a standard fish, bit of a calling station, can't handread for [censored]. Will never fold a draw for even pot sized bets - all that good stuff.
Whats the best turn/river combination? 6max. 5/10. Hero is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button. Folds to hero who makes it 35. Fish calls in the BB with ?? Flop comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Pot is 80) Fish checks, Hero bets 65. Fish calls. Turn is the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (Pot is 210) Fish checks, Hero ??? My question is the following: Which turn/river combo is better AND WHY. A) Check turn, call a bet on a blank river. 2) Bet turn, check behind on any river. iii) Something else?? |
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
2 is obviously better
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
lol love the A/2/iii format
anyway I think it is very close between A and 2 A is good for pot control, and he will bluff missed clubs occasionally so there is a decent chance of getting value there 2 protects your hand, and gets value from draws and other random thing he calls with cuz hes a fish I really dont think either option is bad but I would go w/ 2 |
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
2 is definitely better unless he bluffs with a very big frequency in 1.
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
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2) Bet turn, check behind on most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
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[ QUOTE ] 2) Bet turn, check behind on most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] King of the Nits |
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
he is never folding a club draw on the turn, maybe never even folding a 7 or any pocket pair. and fish typically call too much and dont bluff that much. so not betting this turn sucks.
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
Yeah I'm not so concerned about inducing bluffs as I am maxing from worse pairs, which I think call way more often on the river. Even against guys so-described I'll often fire with A hi here since you get so many folds.
Mmm I guess that counts as charging a flush draw though. |
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
Villain can't hand-read at all, hardly ever folds a draw, and probably doesn't bluff a missed draw. I'd bet around 150-170 here and check on a lot of rivers, but probably bet on a low card blank and expect a call from like A7 or something around that hand-strength.
I don't really like checking turn because of your description that he calls too much and can't read hands. He's probably not calling the river with A4c but he'll definitely call a big turn bet. |
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Re: Standard Hypothetical Situation.
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[ QUOTE ] 2) Bet turn, check behind on most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] He probably doesn't bluff that often, so he is going to check the river with some random draw and it's an easy check for us depending on the river card. We are betting turn for value as well. |
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