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Old 11-09-2006, 06:11 AM
simpsp31 simpsp31 is offline
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Default 400NL fold

Villain is 46\16 no other reads, i think my image is pretty weak tight at the moment. Is this a reasonable fold ?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($384.95)
Hero ($394)
BB ($1060.62)
UTG ($1060.95)
MP ($493.13)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2. MP posts a blind of $6.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, Button calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP folds, Button calls $24.

Flop: ($66) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, Button calls $45.

Turn: ($156) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $79</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $158</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $393
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:15 AM
wizardplow wizardplow is offline
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Default Re: 400NL fold

yeah, looks ok to me. I guess you could call the min-raise and see what he does on the river, but it seems pretty clear your are beat here.
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:25 AM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: 400NL fold

What Wizard said. You can call given the cheap-o price, and re-eval the river if you wish, but might be better to dump this.
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:08 AM
simpsp31 simpsp31 is offline
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Default Re: 400NL fold

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You can call given the cheap-o price, and re-eval the river if you wish,

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what are you putting him on ?
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:25 AM
wizardplow wizardplow is offline
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Default Re: 400NL fold

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You can call given the cheap-o price, and re-eval the river if you wish,

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what are you putting him on ?

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Pretty much something that beats us. Perhaps villain could have something like KdJd or j10 or something. Hero could call the min-raise and hope for a cheap showdown (or an ace ). Regardless, I still think folding is the right play here, this board is just too scary.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: 400NL fold

Preflop raise too big
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:24 AM
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I dont like preflop

Yout turn bet is too weak but as played you have to fold
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:29 AM
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I think things go wrong on the flop. After the pf raise, and villains limp-call, I think we can safely put him on a hand which he thinks is getting implied odds, so probalby low-med pair or some suited/connected hand.

That makes the flop a total disaster. We've got missed highcards of a useless suit on a board with low cards and all sort of draws ... Especially since Villain is likely to have a holding that goes well with this board.
If you think you have to fire here and try and take it away, at least bet the full pot. Though I don't think it would accomplish anything.

While checking the flop may look weak, betting the turn and folding to a min-raise is even worse.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:36 AM
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Hedonism, Praetor ...

There's $16 in the pot and MP has $6 invested already. What do you think would be a good raise here, with AJs from the SB?
I would ideally like everybody else to fold pf. I think OP's bet is most likely to accomplish this. Smaller raises will probably keep too many players in the hand for our liking.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:00 AM
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If your raisig the amount is fine

I dislike raising from here is what im saying
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