NL50 WTF?!?

[Thremp]

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $42.40
UTG+1: $30.54
MP1: $15
MP2: $168.90
CO: $48
Button: $53.20
Hero: $47.50
BB: $76.65

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $3</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($20, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>


What should i be doing?

[neverforgetlol]

you aren't going to fold everyone out with that turn bet. i'd lead the flop, mp2's bet could easily just be a position bet trying to steal with air.

[kslghost]

Def bet out on the flop. They will generally think you might have an ace, so someone who comes over the top will generally have a strong ace. Beware if they call.

[abarrenfuture]

Well normally I'd lead the flop, but with three callers I find it hard to believe that no one hit that ace. That said, you probably should pot the flop (or whatever your standard C-bet is). Fold to a re-raise, tread carefully if called. I'm pretty sure that calling that flop bet is the worst possible option. Either raise or fold. Ugly situation to be in. Compounding the matter is the ~1/5 pot bet on the flop. No reads on villain?

[Thremp]

No reads, my game time is all messed up.

I figured the 1/5 pot was a donk move and he had Ax.

2 other guys checked very quickly and last guy thought for a while

[abarrenfuture]

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No reads, my game time is all messed up.

I figured the 1/5 pot was a donk move and he had Ax.


[/ QUOTE ]

Without a read, if you thought he had Ax, why would you try to push him off on the turn? Donks (which is your quick and dirty interpretation of his bet) don't like to fold TPNK

[kslghost]

Yea if he has Ax, this is an easy fold. This is why you need to lead, because you are guessing.

[mattnxtc]

Lead the flop...Every once and a while people will fold the weaker ace (not very often), but you have to lead this.

your turn bet wont really scare anybody out and appears to be spewing

[orange]

to those advocating a flop lead,

why? with 3 other opponents in this hand in a raised pot, there is a high likelyhood of someone having an ace. in SSNL, players will rarely rarely ever fold TP in most any situation. tbh, i wouldnt mind c/c-ing down here in this situation. villan has given us a small price to see the turn and maybe he'll do the same with the river. our hand has decent showdown value and they will never ever fold an ace here.

obviously each situation is different with the amount of opponents/stack sizes/bets/etc etc. my standard is to either c/c flop and not lead.

[AZplaya]

I would just call down. With this many people in a raised pot, someone probably has an ace, and there is no way in hell they are folding. I don't understand this turn bet, MP2 either has an ace or is trying a positional steal, just check/call reasonable bet and hope he gives up.