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Old 08-11-2007, 07:01 PM
Oki-Oki Oki-Oki is offline
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

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I know this post is now kinda old and all but I'm going to bump it anyway.

In the begginning I was in the c/c camp and really didn't understand why pretty much every player i respect in this thread was opting for the c/f. After thinking about it long and hard i get why a c/f is prob better here.

Anyway i really feel i learnt something from this thread. Thanks

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So I ask again, what hand are you afraid of when you c-f?

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Its not a specific hand we are afraid of here, but everyone seems to think if we bet durrrr's calling range has us beat. Sometimes hes going to call thin but overall this range beats cts's hand.

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All this is predicated on durrrr having at least one hand in his range that beats us.

I'm not saying he doesn't, just that I would have guessed prior to this thread that he doesn't.

So please indulge me and pick a hand.

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4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],
K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
also some combinations of A 10.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:19 PM
Micturition Man Micturition Man is offline
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

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I know this post is now kinda old and all but I'm going to bump it anyway.

In the begginning I was in the c/c camp and really didn't understand why pretty much every player i respect in this thread was opting for the c/f. After thinking about it long and hard i get why a c/f is prob better here.

Anyway i really feel i learnt something from this thread. Thanks

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So I ask again, what hand are you afraid of when you c-f?

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Its not a specific hand we are afraid of here, but everyone seems to think if we bet durrrr's calling range has us beat. Sometimes hes going to call thin but overall this range beats cts's hand.

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All this is predicated on durrrr having at least one hand in his range that beats us.

I'm not saying he doesn't, just that I would have guessed prior to this thread that he doesn't.

So please indulge me and pick a hand.

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4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],
K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
also some combinations of A 10.


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I actually missed that the bdoor flush had come in. Thanks for your response, very reasonable answer.

(Although I kinda doubt 4c3c and AT, but that's beside the point.)
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:23 PM
Oki-Oki Oki-Oki is offline
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

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I know this post is now kinda old and all but I'm going to bump it anyway.

In the begginning I was in the c/c camp and really didn't understand why pretty much every player i respect in this thread was opting for the c/f. After thinking about it long and hard i get why a c/f is prob better here.

Anyway i really feel i learnt something from this thread. Thanks

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So I ask again, what hand are you afraid of when you c-f?

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Its not a specific hand we are afraid of here, but everyone seems to think if we bet durrrr's calling range has us beat. Sometimes hes going to call thin but overall this range beats cts's hand.

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All this is predicated on durrrr having at least one hand in his range that beats us.

I'm not saying he doesn't, just that I would have guessed prior to this thread that he doesn't.

So please indulge me and pick a hand.

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4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],
K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],
also some combinations of A 10.


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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I actually missed that the bdoor flush had come in. Thanks for your response, very reasonable answer.

(Although I kinda doubt 4c3c and AT, but that's beside the point.)

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I also kinda doubt 43cc and A10 but they are atleast plausible.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:41 PM
Man Our Units Man Our Units is offline
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

I dont think he would be calling with a worse hand? So I think c/c is best.
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

c/c is the best option i think, by shoving you are crushed a lot if he calls and c/f seems too weak after the clubs missed. if you didnt have the Ad, i lean towards a c/f cuz Adxd is a very plausible hand he can have.

interesting hand and a difficult spot on the river
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:50 AM
igetbadbeat igetbadbeat is offline
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

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how about a raise on the flop and fold to 3bet?

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Uhm, wtf is that avatar?
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 500/1k river spot

c/c for sure. No real value in shoving and if durr missed whatever draw he'll bluff for sure.
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