NL50 - folding overpair in 3bet pot

[hendal]

Why did you call preflop if you say his range is prob tighter. Then you're almost def. behind already.

Can't play for set value so fold, given the (tighter)range you put him on.

As played, shove flop after BB calls

[kroeliewoelie]

Once you call preflop, you aren't playing for set value (you don't get the odds). I.e. you think QQ will be good if you flop an overpair. That means shove flop.

And I think you seriously need to reconsider their ranges. These guys don't know [censored] about which hands can be used for what preflop, so assigning such a tight range is wrong IMO.

[bazooka87]

Umm I don't see how you can call the flop then fold the turn when nothing gets there. I'm shoving this flop against these opponents all day

[yegon]

is it better to 4bet pf then?

[DennisGPunkt]

if you don't push this flop you could have just folded preflop.

threebet pot with an overpair means that if no overcard comes we gonna put our stack into the middle 99% of the time.

[Lego05]

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is it better to 4bet pf then?

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I just went through this whole thread thinking I probably would have 4bet pre-flop there and not one person mentioned it.


Well I probably 4bet pre-flop there. What do people think about that? I think it's the best play.



As played shove flop. As played I puke on turn cause I really do doubt your ahead but but.....

[hendal]

Lego05:
So raise to soemthin like 21 and if villain shoves fold? Almost third of Hero stack is in there by then.

[Lego05]

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Lego05:
So raise to soemthin like 21 and if villain shoves fold? Almost third of Hero stack is in there by then.

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21 would be fine. I'd prolly make it 22-24 but who cares. And no...if villian shoves then call.

[corsakh]

4bet pre is a bluff with QQ. Why turn an excellent hand into a bluff?

[djj6835]

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4bet pre is a bluff with QQ. Why turn an excellent hand into a bluff?

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Nah. Both villains are over aggro donks. They are definitely felting worse here pre.