I have to fold this...right?

[iheartponeez]

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$78.10</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$10.60</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$23.90</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$40.60</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$19.40</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$29.80</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BTN 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG says "tropic", <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.75, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.75, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.5

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.1, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $14.25</font>, UTG says "what do u have", <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>


Okay, maybe I don't, but the villain here is a solid TAG and the total lack of fear makes me wonder...what do I beat? 2-pair. That's it, and even 2-pair wouldn't be pulling this wild stuff, right?

This seems like the moment where laying down has to be world-class, and it's the right time. Or did I talk myself out of a big time win?

[Schiester]

However contrivercial it may be. I'm laying it down too. Thats some really confident aggression.

I don't think too many solid TAGs do this with 2pair.

Would you have done the same if that Q was a K?

[critikal]

I never ever fold here. People usually play pretty tight UTG, so I don't think JT is in his range. While he could have 99 or QQ, he could also easily be doing this with AA or KK. I think this line is AA or KK far more often than QQ or 99. His chat really makes me think he has aces too. I'd just shove now he's not folding.

[Schiester]

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I never ever fold here. People usually play pretty tight UTG, so I don't think JT is in his range. While he could have 99 or QQ, he could also easily be doing this with AA or KK. I think this line is AA or KK far more often than QQ or 99. His chat really makes me think he has aces too. I'd just shove now he's not folding.

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Villan is BB.

[kroeliewoelie]

I think it's a good fold if you can lay this down. No way a solid player c/r over a bet and a raise with 2 pair/overpair here.

[Test_Eagles]

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I never ever fold here.

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+1

Oh wait this is BB not UTG.

Hmm...

[critikal]

Ugh, completely misread that. I still think I'd get it in here though. We're only really screwed against a bigger set (of which only 99 is really likely), and some people will have Q9 or even 89 here.

[wooziephantom]

I actually think u can fold this with a SUPER-SOLID read of bb, just hope u never consider it against randoms on a board like this..

[creamfillin]

There's already a buyin in the pot. ALL IN.

[maciczka]

NEVER EVER fold here. NEVER EVER, especially against solid tag. TAG will raise his TPTK to GET INFORMATION. he raises it so he has set, tptk or 2 pairs. You bet 2 of those 3 so Im still pretty confident with my hand. I never fold set vs solid tags, they overplay tptk+overpairs SOOO OFTEN, just let him do the betting or put him all-in now. once again NEVER EVER EVER fold this