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check/call 1 8.33%
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  #2421  
Old 11-13-2007, 08:46 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

bet $14-$15 or so on turn.


villains range is so wide that while sets and two pair are part of it, there's also a heap of stuff that you'll get paid off by.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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BTN is 30/12 and calls a flop 50%, sb is 50/0 and calls a flop bet 75%

What's does Hero do on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($16.80)
Hero ($24.30)
Button ($29)
SB ($12.55)
BB ($20.75)
UTG ($4.65)
UTG+1 ($60.20)
MP1 ($5.80)
MP2 ($4.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $1.

Flop: ($5.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button calls $4, SB calls $4, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($17.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ???

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keep betting plz to shove now.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:48 PM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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bet $14-$15 or so on turn.


villains range is so wide that while sets and two pair are part of it, there's also a heap of stuff that you'll get paid off by.

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he only has ~$19 and mult draws popping up, just shove.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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[ QUOTE ]
BTN is 30/12 and calls a flop 50%, sb is 50/0 and calls a flop bet 75%

What's does Hero do on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($16.80)
Hero ($24.30)
Button ($29)
SB ($12.55)
BB ($20.75)
UTG ($4.65)
UTG+1 ($60.20)
MP1 ($5.80)
MP2 ($4.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $1.

Flop: ($5.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button calls $4, SB calls $4, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($17.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ???

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keep betting plz to shove now.

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I did thx, I was pretty sure it's a shove, but had one of those days I doubt everything.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:54 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

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bet $14-$15 or so on turn.


villains range is so wide that while sets and two pair are part of it, there's also a heap of stuff that you'll get paid off by.

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he only has ~$19 and mult draws popping up, just shove.

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sorry... i didn't check that.

this strikes me as a very obvious shove. you have an overpair vs someone who can't fold. that's the stone cold nuts.
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  #2426  
Old 11-13-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

I like betting closer to the pot size (~$5) on the flop with that many people still in.

As played I'd shove the turn. Like Josem says, you have the nuts vs these clowns.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:05 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Flopping Set OOP

Is this ok to try and extract with a flopped set OOP or should I play it another way?

Villain is 25/22/3 over 85 hands.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($87)
CO ($19.50)
Button ($30.85)
SB ($53.15)
BB ($49.70)
jb ($53.45)

Preflop: jb is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
jb calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, jb calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
jb checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3.5</font>, jb calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
jb checks, MP checks.

River: ($11.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">jb bets $10</font>
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: AJ - 450 bbs deep

villain is ~ 26/26/5 over 20 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($87.60)
BB ($28.50)
UTG ($83.55)
MP ($57.40)
Button ($35.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $5.50.

Flop: ($15.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11.5</font>, UTG calls $11.50.

Turn: ($38.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Flopping Set OOP

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Is this ok to try and extract with a flopped set OOP or should I play it another way?

Villain is 25/22/3 over 85 hands.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($87)
CO ($19.50)
Button ($30.85)
SB ($53.15)
BB ($49.70)
jb ($53.45)

Preflop: jb is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
jb calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, jb calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
jb checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3.5</font>, jb calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
jb checks, MP checks.

River: ($11.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">jb bets $10</font>

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i'd donk into him and expect him to r/r so we get all in on the flop.
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  #2430  
Old 11-13-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Flopping Set OOP

Yeah my standard use to be the donk lead here but I never seem to get any action with it lately. Might just be variance I guess and I'm being a bit results oriented.

I hate playing OOP.
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