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Old 11-07-2007, 08:09 AM
mondonman mondonman is offline
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Default $22- stdrd pf AK question

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2380
UTG+1: t2880
MP1: t2460
MP2: t1050
MP3: t2430
CO: t4470
Hero: t1910
SB: t560
BB: t1860

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to t180</font>, CO calls t180 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t510)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1910</font>

I would´ve flat called if CO folded but now there are t510 already in the pot.

Stats are filtered:
UTG limper 40/8
MP3 raiser 18/11
CO cold-caller 57/14
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

Many people will say push but I have pushed with AK SO many times and lost it is silly.

FOR ME - it's early in the match and my AK is looking like a VERY expensive drawing hand.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:34 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

Those t450 will sure look nice in your stack.

Push this always.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

This is somewhat interesting, IMO. You have to be careful with tighter players raising over limpers.

Shoving is good here because of the squeeze &amp; the dead money.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Lahmshuffle Lahmshuffle is offline
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

IMO he raises AK, TT+ only..we are not ahead of any hand in this range really..+ we have another guy calling the raise who steals our substantial A or K outs...I flat call this and re-evaluate on the flop..I know pushing is +ev. But there will be bigger +ev situations in late game.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:45 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

In position, it can still be AJ,AQ,smaller pairs. Can't rule those hands out.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:11 PM
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I think we can shove here too. PFR isn't tight enough to make me want to fold/flat.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

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I know pushing is +ev. But there will be bigger +ev situations in late game.

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Exactly my thinking - why push now and risk so much when there will be better opportunities later when the chips are worth more.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:43 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

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I know pushing is +ev. But there will be bigger +ev situations in late game.

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Exactly my thinking - why push now and risk so much when there will be better opportunities later when the chips are worth more.

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Please, no. Pushing is +ev and you can't explain that away by saying "i'll wait for more +ev spots and ignore certain ones". AK is not a limping hand, webster.

Incidentally, the coldcaller makes not pushing this hand awful. Many times the original bettor will fold and donky-mcfish stats will call you super wide. WAYYYY plus Ev to be pushing here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: $22- stdrd pf AK question

This is a very standard pushing spot.
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