Just tag along or raise here????

[HoldenFoldem]

Villain has been playing a solid steady game and this is our first hand against each other. He likes to bet strong in a hand and he over bets the pot on the flop here. I thought i'd ljust let him go ahead like that, and i also thought that just maybe he had KJ, or KK or AJ, so i really just wanted to call it down. Is that too conservative in your opinions????


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($120.95)
CO ($128.80)
Button ($114.15)
SB ($199.75)
Hero ($91.35)
UTG ($55.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9.

River: ($40) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $13</font>, Hero calls $13.

Final Pot: $66

[Jojje_2k]

Raise flop?

[HoldenFoldem]

don't you think that gives away your hand pretty much here??

And what do we do if he raises back at us???

[Jojje_2k]

Get money in

[carnivalhobo]

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don't you think that gives away your hand pretty much here??

And what do we do if he raises back at us???

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if your range for raising the flop is Jx, you have some serious problems

[HoldenFoldem]

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don't you think that gives away your hand pretty much here??

And what do we do if he raises back at us???

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if your range for raising the flop is Jx, you have some serious problems

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So if i raised to 22 on this flop after just calling the preflop raise you wouldn't put me on a J????? c'mon, what else, AK...no...i didn't raise that pf.

[carnivalhobo]

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don't you think that gives away your hand pretty much here??

And what do we do if he raises back at us???

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if your range for raising the flop is Jx, you have some serious problems

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So if i raised to 22 on this flop after just calling the preflop raise you wouldn't put me on a J????? c'mon, what else, AK...no...i didn't raise that pf.

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um ANY TWO? spades, QT Kx, did i mention AIR?

if you play 10/2/1 then sure, ill put you on a J, but if you play poker, your range should be much wider.

[tannenj]

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don't you think that gives away your hand pretty much here??

And what do we do if he raises back at us???

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if your range for raising the flop is Jx, you have some serious problems

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So if i raised to 22 on this flop after just calling the preflop raise you wouldn't put me on a J????? c'mon, what else, AK...no...i didn't raise that pf.

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this is exactly the opposite of the way you should be thinking about these spots.

[The.Accountant]

I think you can raise the flop here, especially with the drawy nature of the board.

[carnivalhobo]

wow raise the flop for sure

once you get the the river, i think a small value raise is pretty thick