Set of Qs

wstaffor · #1 08-12-2006, 02:09 PM

Does everyone play this the same? Anyone see a way to save a bet anywhere? Villian had just sat down so assume no read. Thanks,

Will

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

River: (15 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Final Pot: 23 BB

Results in white below: 
SB has Kh Ks (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has Qd Qs (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: SB wins 23 BB.

RunDownHouse · #2 08-12-2006, 02:14 PM

I think your river raise is a bit much. People slow down after a turn cap unless they're nuts or they have a great hand. We can pretty much rule out 77, so about the only thing you're beating here is 44. You could argue for just calling the turn 3bet, as well. Unless he's got something like A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], maybe, or something like that AND he's overaggro, I don't see him 3betting anything other than KK or 44 here.

Your river cap is really gross.

Mossberg · #3 08-12-2006, 02:16 PM

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Does everyone play this the same? Anyone see a way to save a bet anywhere?

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You're not looking to save bets with a hand like this man. This is a bad beat, and for the one time you're crushed by KK here, you'll be getting MAX value out of AK, 44, AA, or KQ the rest of the time.

True · #4 08-12-2006, 02:17 PM

Check/call the river.

True

Mossberg · #5 08-12-2006, 02:18 PM

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Your river cap is really gross.

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With no reads I think its unfair to say this. I could be wrong.

btspider · #6 08-12-2006, 02:22 PM

call riv. don't include results or make it obvious that you lost the hand ('save bets').

sharpie · #7 08-12-2006, 02:23 PM

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call the river.

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sightless · #8 08-12-2006, 02:23 PM

edit: well after seeing PF mroe caredfully i go 3 bets on river vs UO at 1/2

RunDownHouse · #9 08-12-2006, 02:23 PM

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With no reads I think its unfair to say this. I could be wrong.

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Unless SB's software doesn't have anything other than a "Raise" button, what on earth is his range after he 3bets the river?

Mossberg · #10 08-12-2006, 02:27 PM

Okay Okay, I guess we can slow-down on the river. I kinda think you're all just saying that because he showed results though. IMO, If there is anywhere to slow down, it's just calling the 3bet on the river instead of capping.