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Old 11-22-2007, 01:31 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default KK line check against unknown

Villain sat down a few hands ago.

Do you 3bet the flop?

Assuming you call the flop, do you lead or CRAI turn?


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CO: $29.80
BTN: $93
SB: $17.50
BB: $342.95
Hero (UTG): $130.70

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $17</font>, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($43.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???

Thoughts?
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

I call flop. Turn, I usually CRAI, but I think leading may be better. Although, unknowns do seem to bet hands like 54 here on the turn quite a bit.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:35 PM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

I usually call the flop and check/bomb the turn.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

I'm definitely CRAI this turn expect to see worse over-pairs/wierd top pair combos a large portion of the time.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

i def call the flop here. im looking to get it all in on the turn, and i think the best way to do it is by leading the turn. had he flat called on the flop then i would love a check raise, but not in this spot.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

Nobody likes b/3b?
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

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Nobody likes b/3b?

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thats fine too, but on a super dry board im looking to get all the money in. even poor players can let go of weak one pair hands at times.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

c/bomb turn.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: KK line check against unknown

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm thinking that maybe we should B3B here since it's rainbow. I'm not sure if our range changes all that much if we 3bet instead of call. Only thing it might do is weight it more heavily towards stronger overpairs (QQ-AA) and less towards weaker (99-JJ). Do you think villain will continue with the hands in his range that we are way head of on the turn if we check to him? Feels very likely that he will check behind with one pair hands and bet anything that beats us. Sometimes he will also check turn with combos which sucks for us.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:35 PM
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Stack-a-donk FTW.
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