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Old 11-30-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default 1/2 TT in BB

MP opens for $8. He's running 23/6/5 over ~100 hands.
LP is a donk w/ a $172 stack. He calls.
I have TT in BB. I have $200 and EP covers.

Standard 3bet?
Well I called.

Flop:
9 3 8 rainbow.

What's up?
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 TT in BB

check and then tell us what happened
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:47 PM
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:50 PM
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MP opens for $8. He's running 23/6/5 over ~100 hands.
LP is a donk w/ a $172 stack. He calls.
I have TT in BB. I have $200 and EP covers.

Standard 3bet?
Well I called.

Flop:
9 3 8 rainbow.

What's up?

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Pot is $25
I checked.
MP bet $16
LP called.
I....

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Old 11-30-2007, 04:51 PM
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call.

next?
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 TT in BB

i like calling here rather than squeezing against someone with these stats, so you made the right play imo

call the Cbet and proceed from there
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:58 PM
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call.



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seriously?

I think I hate a call against two opponents.

What am I doing if I call and a blank falls?
What if it's a J Q K or A?

Point is, I think calling is a great way to either have to fold before show down, or get to showdown without the winner.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:01 PM
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call.



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seriously?

I think I hate a call against two opponents.

What am I doing if I call and a blank falls?
What if it's a J Q K or A?

Point is, I think calling is a great way to either have to fold before show down, or get to showdown without the winner.

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If you raise and MP calls, you basically have to c/f turn. He'll slow down if he doesn't have you beat.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:40 PM
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call.



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seriously?

I think I hate a call against two opponents.

What am I doing if I call and a blank falls?
What if it's a J Q K or A?

Point is, I think calling is a great way to either have to fold before show down, or get to showdown without the winner.

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You are way ahead of LP's range.

MP is now really, really unlikely to bet in a protected pot on the turn if he can't beat TT. That is, if a Q falls and he bets, it's very unlikely he's now betting because he thinks the Q is a good second-barrel card vs. a donk station and an overcaller. It's likely that either the Q helped him or that he doesn't really care about the Q because he has some other made hand.

So, if he checks any turn and the donk bets, call. If he bets any turn (except a T, sure), fold, regardless of what the donk does.

If they both check, see what the river brings. Probably value bet vs. the donk on a lot of rivers and just hope that any overcard missed MP.
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