1/2: 66 on rag flop oop

Merlinius · #1 11-22-2007, 10:34 AM

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00/$2.00

MP3 ($201.30) 23/16/2.5/13/(86 hands)
CO ($258.26)
Button ($254.75)
SB ($314.74)
BB ($206.50) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP3 raises to 8.0, 3 folds, Hero calls $6.00,

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $17 )
Hero checks, MP3 bets $14.00, Hero calls $14.00??,

check/raise?

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $45 )
Hero bets $30.00, MP3 calls $30.00,

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $105 )
Hero checks?, MP3 bets $78.00, Hero?

What hand is villain representing here? What hand is he calling with on the turn?

Merlinius · #2 11-22-2007, 01:41 PM

anyone?

DanJ. · #3 11-22-2007, 01:47 PM

99+/boat.

sometimes you mite see spades on river, but if hes good hes probably jamming spades on the turn.

spivey · #4 11-22-2007, 01:49 PM

I don't like leading turn. On the river, he could have busted spades or an overpair. I'd fold.

Ganon · #5 11-22-2007, 01:54 PM

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Your flop c/c combined with turn donk is really weird. And basically you're repping a weird range {7x,33,44,56,air} and from villain's POV he's WA/WB with {TT+, and sometimes XsXs} here. And once you check the river he probably feels like you were FOS and he decides to vbet TT+ and sometimes bluf XsXs but I think you have to fold.

I don't like your line in the first place. I'd most likely c/f turn since by now your gutshot outs might not be good and he's very unlikely to ever pay you off when you do hit. Even though it's a card he can 2barrel with some of his range C/F is best.

spivey · #6 11-22-2007, 02:03 PM

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99+/boat.

sometimes you mite see spades on river, but if hes good hes probably jamming spades on the turn.

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You really think jamming turn with spades is more EV than just calling, and taking away on rivers where villain checks? If Hero c/c's flop, and bet's turn, he seems to either have a weak hand or a really strong one. It shouldn't be too hard to occassionally steal from the strong ones.

DanJ. · #7 11-22-2007, 02:21 PM

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99+/boat.

sometimes you mite see spades on river, but if hes good hes probably jamming spades on the turn.

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You really think jamming turn with spades is more EV than just calling, and taking away on rivers where villain checks? If Hero c/c's flop, and bet's turn, he seems to either have a weak hand or a really strong one. It shouldn't be too hard to occassionally steal from the strong ones.

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ya, not with NFD coz that probably has SD value. Heroes line looks so bluffy, and there arent very many hands that he donks the turn with that he can call a shove with.

HoldEmNewby · #8 11-22-2007, 04:33 PM

how do you feel about a turn c/r?

Merlinius · #9 11-22-2007, 05:46 PM

ok, so what's the best line here? check/fold turn and if villain checks behind, bet the river? bet any river?

what do you think about a flop c/r?

Ranma4703 · #10 11-22-2007, 05:56 PM

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ok, so what's the best line here? check/fold turn and if villain checks behind, bet the river? bet any river?

what do you think about a flop c/r?

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Flop c/r turns your hand into a bluff, so do it with a hand with more equity vs his range.