KK on an A high board...

Fours · #1 05-18-2006, 12:26 AM

Table just formed so I don't have any reads. 5/10 10 handed on UB

Folds to me in the CO and I raise K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks, I bet, BB calls.

Turn 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB donks, I raise, BB calls.

River 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB checks, I check.

Is the turn raise bad? Is the river check too weak? is this line standard against an unknown? any other comments?

sharpie · #2 05-18-2006, 01:35 AM

I'd just calldown from the turn and bet if checked to.

Oracle · #3 05-18-2006, 03:37 AM

What do you expect your turn raise to accomplish? Do you think it's capable of folding an ace? Can you fold to a 3 bet? After this donk you need to call down.

Haupt_234 · #4 05-18-2006, 10:39 AM

Bad turn raise, call down after being bet into on the turn. Your raise here accomplishes nothing.

Haupt_234

Caddy_4_Life · #5 05-18-2006, 10:49 AM

I don't know many players who fold an ace in this situation..especially bad players. I think raising could at best accomplish folding a weaker hand. And I don't think you catch him picking up that [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw enough to justify throwing that extra BB in...not to mention he's still drawing!

Thorv · #6 05-18-2006, 12:15 PM

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I don't know many players who fold an ace in this situation.

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Call down.

MainEvent · #7 05-18-2006, 01:55 PM

The only circumstance where raising the turn makes sense is when you firmly put villain on two hearts. Unfortunately, our reads are hardly ever that strong. Nor do I think he has two hearts often enough for this play to make sense. A raise will make a worse hand fold and a better hand will still call.

This pot is small and raising feels like overkill.

crablegs33 · #8 05-18-2006, 04:22 PM

i don't have a problem with it... gets you out of there for the same amount as calling down turn and riv, but gives you option to push further if you improve...

i obviously fold to a 3-bet here...

pretty standard

RyanCMU · #9 05-18-2006, 04:29 PM

AFter he calls your flop bet and then donks the turn, im probably just calling down.

NWCougar · #10 05-18-2006, 07:40 PM

I'm happy just calling down here.