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Old 06-08-2006, 02:01 AM
betgo betgo is offline
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Default Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

$150 MTT. 11 players left, 10 places pay. I am in last place, but there are several other small stacks.
Game #1520443935 - Tournament Pearl (NLH) - 300/600 No Limit Texas
Hold'em - 2006/06/07-23:37:17.4 (CST)
Table "Pearl 3" (MTT) -- Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: betgo (4,481 in chips)
Seat 2: yunger2 (6,308 in chips)
Seat 4: bbeezzer (10,244 in chips)
Seat 6: JRoscoe72 (15,254 in chips)
Seat 7: cmac8t2 (15,888 in chips)
Seat 9: P0KERPR0 (19,000 in chips)
yunger2 : Ante (50)
bbeezzer: Ante (50)
JRoscoe72: Ante (50)
cmac8t2 : Ante (50)
P0KERPR0: Ante (50)
betgo : Ante (50)
betgo : Post Small Blind (300)
yunger2 : Post Big Blind (600)
Dealt to betgo [ 9s ]
Dealt to betgo [ 9c ]
bbeezzer: Fold
JRoscoe72: Raise (1,800)
cmac8t2 : Fold
P0KERPR0: Call (1,800)
betgo : ???
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:31 AM
Bungler Bungler is offline
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

I think I like a push better here. If you just call you may encourage the BB to come along for the ride, and I think you would rather discourage action from the BB. If you call and the BB folds I still think the pot would be too big to get the other two hands to fold when you push the flop. So I say push and hopfully it might just be heads-up.
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

id vote for a stop n go, u dont wanna be checked down here
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

tough one. Depends whether or not you think one of them will fold. I sure don't mind being all in PF but if both of them call it gets awkward.
I prefer a push now to on the flop, but I could go either way.
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

I like shoving to get the BB to fold and to open up the possibility of getting the pot HU by encouaging one of the players to overshove which is reasonably likely with their stack sizes.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:42 AM
Riorin Riorin is offline
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

Folding is not an option or we are simply not discussing it?

I'd fold!
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:52 AM
MrTimCaum MrTimCaum is offline
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Folding is not an option or we are simply not discussing it?

I'd fold!

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whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:34 AM
Skjonne Skjonne is offline
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

Wow. This is scary.

Discussed before

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Consensus where to push, so I'm pushing. If I did otherwise, I would not have learned a thing would I?
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:06 AM
CASINOCASINO CASINOCASINO is offline
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id vote for a stop n go, u dont wanna be checked down here

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Old 06-08-2006, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Push or stop n go at 2 players: 99 in SB

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Folding is not an option or we are simply not discussing it?

I'd fold!

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Folding is reasonable to consider, because this is the bubble. 10th plays 230, with prizes going up significantly for each place. So I have a significant $expectation by folding. Obviously, if I win this hand, my expectation goes up.

6-handed one big stack raises on the bubble and another calls in position, which makes me think 99 is ahead.

However, I would fold anything weaker than 99. You don't want to fold into the money, but you want to be doing the stealing, not calling.

I am pretty sure folding is not the best play, but it is not as obviously bad as it may seem to some 2+2ers.
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