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Bad Play, Bad Luck, or Both?
These two hands came up half an hour ago. I think I could have played both of them differently. The villian in both is a tightish player who is new to NL and not very good. Bad play here on my part?
(5 Players) Seat 0 (playing) : Player 0, amount $14.30 Seat 5 (playing) : Dr_Doctr, amount $25 Player 3: Small Blind ($0.10) Player 4: Big Blind ($0.25) ** Dealing Down Cards ** Dealt to Dr_Doctr: [Qd, Kc] Dr_Doctr: Call ($0.25) (ignore limp) Player 0: Call ($0.25) Player 1: Fold Player 2: Fold Player 3: Fold Player 4: Check ($0) ** Dealing Flop ** Community cards: [Kd, Ts, Qs] Player 4: Check ($0) Dr_Doctr: Bet ($1) Player 0: Raise ($3) Player 4: Fold Dr_Doctr: ? Dr_Doctr: Raise ($6) Player 0: Raise ($14.05) Dr_Doctr:? Dr_Doctr: Call ($8.05) ** Dealing Turn ** Community cards: [Jd] ** Dealing River ** Community cards: [8s] Results in white <font color="white">summary Player 0: bet $14.30, won $27.50, net $13.20, HoleCards [Ks, 6s], HiHand [a flush, king high] [Ks, Qs, Ts, 8s, 6s], won $27.50 from main pot Summary Dr_Doctr: bet $14.30, won $0, net $-14.30, HoleCards [Qd, Kc] </font> Hand 2 - Villian has been getting more aggressive since the last hand with me. I think I might have been steaming a little here. (6 players) Player 0, amount $30.70 Dr_Doctr, amount $24.55 Player 1: Small Blind ($0.10) Player 2: Big Blind ($0.25) ** Dealing Down Cards ** Dealt to Dr_Doctr: [Kd, As] Player 3: Fold Player 4: Fold Dr_Doctr: Raise ($1) Player 0: Call ($1) Player 1: Fold Player 2: Fold ** Dealing Flop ** Community cards: [Kc, Td, 6d] Dr_Doctr: Bet ($2) Player 0: Raise ($6) Dr_Doctor: ? - Fold here or re-raise and fold to a push? I think calling was a bad play. At this stage I was thinking he was on a flush draw or maybe a weaker K. Looking back on it I think re-raising and folding to a push might have been the best play. Dr_Doctr: Call ($4) ** Dealing Turn ** Community cards: [4d] Dr_Doctr: Check ($0) Player 0: Check ($0) At this stage I'm thinking he might be getting clever with a flush. But if he has a set etc. he might be scared of it - and if he was raising with nothing he is going to fold to any bet anyway. So I just check and he checks behind. ** Dealing River ** Community cards: [8d] This makes me a king-high flush. Good enough to bet for value here? Dr_Doctr: Bet ($8) Player 0: Raise ($23.70) Dr_Doctr:? - Can I fold this? What could he be pushing with here if not the Ad? Easy fold? Anyway I call based on his aggressive play since the last hand. Dr_Doctr: Call ($9.55) Results in white <font color="white"> Summary Player 0: bet $30.70, won $53.15, net $22.45, HoleCards [5d, Ad], HiHand [a flush, ace high] [Ad, Td, 8d, 6d, 5d], won $47 from main pot, won $6.15 from side pot #1 Summary Dr_Doctr: bet $24.55, won $0, net $-24.55 </font> |
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Re: Bad Play, Bad Luck, or Both?
1: fine, hes doing this with alot of K's given read
2: I'm re-raising the flop, as played turn check is good and river is fine, odds are too good to fold. Can you put stack sizes up next time please? |
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Re: Bad Play, Bad Luck, or Both?
Sorry forgot stack sizes - Bloody Wpex - I think I might just start typing out the histories using those icons for the suits etc. - I added them in an edit.
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Re: Bad Play, Bad Luck, or Both?
1. I'd say playing the flop slower, just calling the raise and seeing a turn, just becuase while your hand is probably good on the flop, there's alot of potential for it to be bad by the river, so just try and get to a showdown as cheap as possible, or fold against a very strong bet on the flush card, if you think he's tight and not really capable of bluffing
2. I think your oppenent played this terribly with the turn check and just got lucky that you happened to get a king high flush, however i really dont see any hand that he would bluff all-in with on a four diamond board on the river, so i dont really see the merit in calling, or even betting in that instance. -Evan |
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Re: Bad Play, Bad Luck, or Both?
Hand 1, I say a re-raise on the flop is good but if you're gonna raise there's no point [censored] around with a tiny raise, just push or call and CRAI on turn. Still a push is better as there's a lot of cards that kill your action or improve villain, so make him pay now.
Hand 2, I'm pretty sure I 3bet that flop AI too. On the River it's betweena check/call and a bet/fold really. Because of stack sizes I would say check call is the best line here because betting puts most of you're stack in. |
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