Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Shorthanded
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-12-2006, 12:53 AM
SoCalRugger SoCalRugger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on the raggedy edge
Posts: 2,296
Default Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6



I was playing 5/10 full before deciding to switch exclusively to 6-max. Here's my first 12k hands. I figure if everything's still going well, I'll move up to 3/6 around 20k, but I'd like to get some input on what I need to work on before then.

So from what I can tell, my problems are the following:

- VP$IP too low by a couple points
- PFR too low by a couple points
- Need to defend SB a bit more, although maybe not at 3/6 with a 1/3 structure?
- Go to showdown a bit more

Agree/disagree? Missing anything? Everything else looks reasonable to me, but that doesn't mean a whole lot.

Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:20 PM
SoCalRugger SoCalRugger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on the raggedy edge
Posts: 2,296
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

No comments? Does this mean I've got no leaks and I'm ready to head over to UB for the 300/600?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:32 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: still a NL fish - so lay off!
Posts: 3,704
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

yep.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:38 PM
ivo ivo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 142
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

Can u tell me why your
Att.To Steal Blinds
at 2/4 is 35% but at 1/2 is 30%?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:41 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 9,762
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

Too tight, not going to a showdown enough, not stealing enough, not defending enough.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-12-2006, 09:28 PM
Kwaz Kwaz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: On holidays. Again.
Posts: 5,191
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

Holy [censored]. These look like my full ring stats.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-12-2006, 09:46 PM
SoCalRugger SoCalRugger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on the raggedy edge
Posts: 2,296
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored]. These look like my full ring stats.

[/ QUOTE ]
I'm basically going by that starting hand chart that's in Wookie's Stats post which I thought was supposed to give acceptable VPIP/PFR numbers, but apparently not. I guess I need to start raising hands that the chart says to fold after 1-2 limpers, like Ax, K9s, KT, QJ. Like I said, I think these are my two biggest leaks.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-12-2006, 11:28 PM
MrWookie MrWookie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Treating my drinking problem
Posts: 17,411
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored]. These look like my full ring stats.

[/ QUOTE ]
I'm basically going by that starting hand chart that's in Wookie's Stats post which I thought was supposed to give acceptable VPIP/PFR numbers, but apparently not. I guess I need to start raising hands that the chart says to fold after 1-2 limpers, like Ax, K9s, KT, QJ. Like I said, I think these are my two biggest leaks.

[/ QUOTE ]

That guide, while great for beginners, is, well, for beginners. As you get more comfortable, what you should really start taking advantage of is rasing to isolate. Try and sit behind bad players, and raise behind their limps with slightly more marginal hands than you're used to. Take the better hands from the set that you'd raise if it was folded to you, but that you're folding with the one bad limper. I'm glad to see your stealing expanding from 1/2 to 2/4. You can open that up a little more even. I should probably update my stats post to say that a reasonable upper bound on stealing is 45-50%, not 40%, as it currently reads.

OTOH, don't let anyone say that playing w/ these stats is a big leak. You're a little tight. You're passing up some profitable situations. But just because raising QJo after a bad limper is profitable doesn't mean that folding it is a 1 BB mistake or something crazy like that.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-13-2006, 02:41 PM
tubasteve tubasteve is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 3-bet
Posts: 7,271
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored]. These look like my full ring stats.

[/ QUOTE ]
I'm basically going by that starting hand chart that's in Wookie's Stats post which I thought was supposed to give acceptable VPIP/PFR numbers, but apparently not. I guess I need to start raising hands that the chart says to fold after 1-2 limpers, like Ax, K9s, KT, QJ. Like I said, I think these are my two biggest leaks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't raise Ax or any of these hands in fact, just limp along and make up postflop with KT QJ K9s. I'd still fold most weak aces here depending on how many limpers there are. I think this is sound but someone let me know if I'm crazy.

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-12-2006, 10:14 PM
SoCalRugger SoCalRugger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on the raggedy edge
Posts: 2,296
Default Re: Stats Post - Want to fix leaks before moving to 3/6

[ QUOTE ]
Too tight, not going to a showdown enough, not stealing enough, not defending enough.

[/ QUOTE ]
I thought a steal percentage around 30-35% was reasonable. No?

Also, you mean not defending the small blind enough? Or both? 'cause I thought my Folded BB to Steal percentage was ok.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.