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Old 05-15-2007, 03:47 PM
pryor15 pryor15 is offline
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I'll say it: w/o Falwell's influence, George W. Bush is never elected President"

This is giving one man far too much credit for the lunacy of hundreds of thousands.

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but most of them aren't lunatics. they're just easily swayed.

Falwell helped establish the idea that Christians should vote Republican. set aside your religious views for a minute. most people (religious or not) don't do due dilligence in researching candidates. so, a lot of Christians vote a party line because of an expectation Falwell helped foster. it doesn't make them lunatics, just lazy when it comes to voting.

also, remember how close that election was
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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It's always nice when there's a death that you can really line up and get firmly behind.

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QFT (had to whip it out)
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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I hope he dies a slow, painful death.

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I hope stem cells from lesbian atheists are the only way he doesn't.

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Sorry to be late to the party. Just got up.

I see he's actually dead. I see that some people are happy that he is gone. I approve of this.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:48 PM
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Specifically, you're happy that a social conservative has died.

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I think saying that hating Jerry Fallwell = hating social conservatism does a HUGE disservice to social conservatism, and I say that as a bleeding-heart liberal.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:48 PM
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The comparison is ludicrous. Hitler set into motion a war that killed tens of millions and left a continent in ruins. Falwell expressed his political views as a citizen in an open democratic society.

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How about Goebbels then? Just how influential does someone have to be before their death becomes a good thing?
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:50 PM
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So that puts him on a level where it's appropriate to celebrate his death?

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How evil does someone need to be before it is acceptable to celebrate his death?

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I'd say more evil than Cheney, but less evil than the VT shooter.

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So if someone is more evil than the VT shooter, I'm not allowed to celebrate his death? That hardly seems reasonable.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:51 PM
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lololol at you guys. Might want to reconsider your moral compass when another person's death brings you joy.

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I'm sorry for his family, I'm sure they're are people who care for him as a human. Joy isn't the right word but its a similar feeling to when Bush is out of office - relief that someone is no longer spewing verbal vomit to the sheep who follow him. Someone else will step up and fill the vacuum, but maybe with a more positive message (a bit too optimistic I think).
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:55 PM
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Zurvan,

i'm not sure you fully comprehend his sphere of influence in this country

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That's entirely possible. I may be missing something.

But public idiocy is not a crime against humanity.

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him and billy graham were too smart to be idiots, instead they pretty much brainwashed millions of people of which now form a massive core voting block that infringes on many of the rights in teh bill of rights

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Graham and fallwell were very different people.

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During the Apartheid era, Graham consistently refused to visit South Africa until its government finally allowed visiting crowds to sit desegregated for his first 1973 crusade there. He also openly denounced Apartheid at the crusade.



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Graham opposed segregation during the 1960s and often paid bail money to secure the release of Martin Luther King from several jails in the American South during the 1960s civil rights struggle.


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Graham may have spread a religion you don't like but he wasn't a dirtbag.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:56 PM
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boy will he be surprised. lucifer is waiting.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:57 PM
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stabn is right

comparing Graham to Falwell is completely unfair.
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