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08-04-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
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[ QUOTE ] Most of the good regs have around 40, only know one guy with 50ish.. [/ QUOTE ] this is completely wrong. most of the best tags have very near 50. [/ QUOTE ] nah only person i've ever seen with a wwsf over 50 is bld on party. average is around 40-42 on ftp. keep in mind you need a few thousand hands for it to be precise enough. mistaking a 40 wwsf for a 46 wwsf can lead to huge misjudgments 
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#12
08-04-2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
This stat includes unraised pots which makes it a little flawed. Games with fewer unraised pots means you should have a higher W$SF%. I think by default on Party you should have a lower W$SF% than those on FTP/Stars.
Whenever I've played on Stars mine has been > 45. On Party mine is 41-42 ish but seems to be growing the more I play.
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#13
08-04-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Most of the good regs have around 40, only know one guy with 50ish.. [/ QUOTE ] this is completely wrong. most of the best tags have very near 50. [/ QUOTE ] nah only person i've ever seen with a wwsf over 50 is bld on party. average is around 40-42. keep in mind you need a few thousand hands for it to be precise enough. mistaking a 40 wwsf for a 46 wwsf can lead to huge misjudgments [/ QUOTE ] I think maintaing a W$SF of > 50 6 handed at almost any limit is extremely difficult. Usually though, the biggest winners tend to have the highest W$SFs, although some people are successful with a low one of under 40. It's pretty rare though.
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#14
08-04-2007, 04:24 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
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[ QUOTE ] i think i have like 42 [/ QUOTE ] nit [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] vpip like 26 tho
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#16
08-04-2007, 06:18 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
112k hands nl10 - nl400: (some fr as well)
vpip 27 w$wsf 43 60k hands nl100 - nl400: (all 6max) vpip 27 w$wsf 46 25k hands nl200 - nl400: (6max) vpip 26 w$wsf 48 i ran hot in the last time though. still kinda trendy. maybe fewer players seeing flops has to do with it. maybe i just got better postflop [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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#18
08-04-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
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having a high WWSF% isnt always correlated with a bigger winner. I bet GimmeNutz had a 65% WWSF at 60VPIP but he was awful. Timely aggression is where its at [/ QUOTE ] Kinda funny that you mentioned that. In IRC the other day we were on the topic of Fgators and his low W$SF being the root of his problems. Triumph then compared him to Gimmenutz thinking his W$SF would be low, figuring that if he played a ton of hands preflop and had a W$SF of > 50 he would basically be CTS. Obviously gimmenutz is no CTS, and you're right that timely aggression is where it's at. Typically TAGs who have high W$SF's are great at applying pressure at the right spots and backing off when nessecary. FWIW, Triumph looked Gimmenutz's stats up from old Party and his W$SF was 47.
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#19
08-04-2007, 08:21 PM
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Re: Stat question --- Won $ wsf %
W$WSF is also a factor of the games you play in. When you frequently go to the flop with 3 or more people it will generally be lower than when you play more flops HU.
I agree with Cristophers that a combination of high VPIP and high W$WSF is generally a trait of a good player.
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