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Old 06-08-2006, 12:00 AM
SoCalRugger SoCalRugger is offline
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Default I have no idea how to play JJ

I made the transition to NL this month. I've played 9k hands of NL25 and I'm down $100 with pocket Jacks, my biggest loser by far, so clearly I have no idea what I'm doing. What's my line for this situation?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 ($84.75)
CO ($28.10)
Button ($15.65)
SB ($18.68)
BB ($34.46)
UTG ($23.11)
Hero ($21.40)
UTG+2 ($71.41)
MP1 ($6.53)
MP2 ($24.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero???
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

Reload preflop.

I would call and hope to see a huge multiway pot that doesn't get reraised and play for set value. I don't play full ring, so don't know if that is cool or not.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

I'm probably raising to 6-8. depending on any kind of read I have. Calling isn't really an option because I don't like inviting people behind me to make this a multi way pot when my hand stinks multi way.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

Unless I had a read, I would call here for set value.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

I'd raise to $4 or $5. If he calls, cbet any flop. If he calls and the board is still favorable (no overs, or a set, etc) I'm prolly pushing the turn.

If the board sucks and he calls the flop, I CB on the turn, cry a little and usually fold the river unless he minbets or something.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

You've got to have a read on Villain here; he's raising 8x, which is a heck of a lot. Is that his standard? Is he a maniac? A total nit?

Without reads it's crank it or fold with that small stack, and I'm folding more often than not. Nits love to raise big with huge pairs, and your stack is small enough to make this one marginal for set value alone. Reload. Only call if you think he'll stack off every time you hit your set.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:08 AM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

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Calling isn't really an option because I don't like inviting people behind me to make this a multi way pot when my hand stinks multi way.

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JJ stinks multi-way?? Care to elaborate?
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

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Reload preflop.

I would call and hope to see a huge multiway pot that doesn't get reraised and play for set value. I don't play full ring, so don't know if that is cool or not.

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AJ,

I like the idea here, but you won't see many people calling 8x -- even at NL25.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

call and look for the set
then fold when you miss
that is all
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: I have no idea how to play JJ

I don't have the math to back it up, but I do remember reading sklansky (TOP or HPFAP) about how JJ is best HU-4 handed. I guess a case can be made for playing for set value, I didn't realize that the raise was 8x the BB. This is a spot where a read helps a ton.
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