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Old 11-29-2007, 08:16 AM
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i like cminraise or pot. i rly dont like a shove at all.

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Old 11-29-2007, 01:57 PM
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people who want to bet the turn:

why?

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srsly. fold better? ya right. call from worse? ya right. build pot so when you hit you can make mad monies? that's what fish do. Only reason I could see for betting is a blocking bet of like $400 so you dont have to pay much to draw, but I still think that's bad.

someone explain

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Old 11-29-2007, 02:01 PM
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looking back thru this thread the central disagreement is whether this guy will try to pot us off a split. If yes c/r is obviously better. I think this opponent will not, especially given a flush hit. Therefore, potting or 3/4 seems much better.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:07 PM
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i would bet the turn to set up a river shove
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:19 PM
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i would bet the turn to set up a river shove

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what does that rep and what does it fold out?
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:24 PM
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i would bet the turn to set up a river shove

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what does that rep and what does it fold out?

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reps a straight or a turned set or a flush draw and it folds out pawket ducks or AK if it gest there this way
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:26 PM
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you said villain does not make large river bluffs... so i expect that he won't be one to push this spot here trying to get you off a chop (especially when you could easily have a big flush in your range given ch/ch flop, c/c turn line)...
you also said he's not bad, so i don't think he stacks off with a naked 9 here to a c/rai... or at least i think there's a very good chance he folds it, making it not worth it since he will always call a bet with a 9 anyways.
so i think a bet is the best way to go here...
i like betting 1500$.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:14 PM
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i would bet the turn to set up a river shove

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what does that rep and what does it fold out?

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reps a straight or a turned set or a flush draw and it folds out pawket ducks or AK if it gest there this way

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villian never shows up with Ak here i dont think. esp given that cts has 3bet a tonnnn. also i dont think any pair or draw folds that turn if we bet. love to hear what cts has to say about turn, though.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:22 PM
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Ak here i dont think. esp given that cts has 3bet a tonnnn. also i dont think any pair or draw folds that turn if we bet. love to hear what cts has to say about turn, though.

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couldn't have said it better

dude always bets way too small, so i can draw cheap, and i will have the best hand sometimes too. chances of him folding any pair if i pot the turn... LOL
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:05 PM
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if we bet the turn we can bet the river, are you saying he's calling turn + riv with 33? because i think that is incredibly important
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